Salora MSX

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By mars2000you

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25-08-2019, 20:10

Manuel wrote:

What kind of MSX exactly?

It looks like a Toshiba HX-10! And it remained a prototype!

By MP83

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06-09-2019, 13:18

I went to the electronic museum in Salo, Finland yesterday to see this prototype in person. Here's more photos of it:

https://imgur.com/a/CvEgmrh

I also took a photo from the back and the right side. Unfortunately the system was mounted on the table, so I couldn't check the bottom or take a better photo from the back. Oh well.

By enribar

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06-09-2019, 14:22

I'm very interested on this topic and very nice find!
Can you post these photos on www.msx.pics?

By Manuel

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06-09-2019, 18:36

Mars, thanks for updating the wiki. However, I wonder if it was a Toshiba project or a Salora project. AFAIK, usually a small company asks a large company whether they can market their product as OEM vendor under their own brand.

By mars2000you

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06-09-2019, 18:46

Manuel wrote:

Mars, thanks for updating the wiki. However, I wonder if it was a Toshiba project or a Salora project. AFAIK, usually a small company asks a large company whether they can market their product as OEM vendor under their own brand.

Ok.

I've made the next more neutral as we don't know exactly what happened:

"For unknown reasons, this project was dropped. However, Toshiba released later the Toshiba HX-10SF in Finland."

By Manuel

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06-09-2019, 22:19

Better Smile Thanks.

By MP83

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07-09-2019, 17:35

Oooh, apparently Salora was considering between three different MSX manufacturers, one being Mitsubishi. This was mentioned in the 6-1985 issue of Printti magazine:

https://archive.org/stream/Printti-magazine/07%20-%20Printti...

Here's the Finnish text from that magazine:

Quote:

"Salaperäinen Salora MSX

Myös Salora on päättänyt kantaa kortensa MSX-markkinoille. Salora MSX ei luonnollisestikaan ole Saloran itsensä tekemä. Huhuja valmistajasta on liikkunut runsaasti ja tähän asti Salora MSX:ää on pidetty Gold Starina. Nyt päivänvalon nähnyt prototyyppi muistuttaa kuitenkin Mitsubishin MSX:ää. Tiettävästi Salora pohtii konevalintaa kolmen merkin välillä.

Saloran osastolta ei suostuttu paljastamaan nyt esitetyn MSX:n valmistajan nimeä, koska mm. näppäimistö muutetaan skandinaaviseksi ja neuvottelut ovat vielä kesken. Muutostyöt tekee tietenkin valmistaja eli Salora MSX:n kotimaisuus jää muutamaan suunnittelutuntiin."

And here's my English translation for you guys:

Quote:

"Mysterious Salora MSX

Salora has also decided to enter the MSX market. Of course, the Salora MSX is not made by Salora itself. There have been many rumors about the manufacturer and so far the Salora MSX has been considered a Gold Star. However, the prototype that now saw the light of day resembles Mitsubishi's MSX. It is known that Salora is considering the choice of machine between three different brands.

Salora's department did not agree to reveal the name of the manufacturer of the MSX that was presented, because the keyboard is being changed to Scandinavian and negotiations are still ongoing. Of course, the remodeling is done by the manufacturer, meaning that the Salora MSX's domesticity will only take a few planning hours."

By the way, can we change the topic of this thread to "Salora MSX" to avoid confusion? ;)

By mars2000you

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07-09-2019, 17:42

It looks like a re-branded Mitsubishi ML-F80 - see https://www.msx.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_ML-F80

By MP83

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07-09-2019, 17:48

How can you tell that it was that particular Mitsubishi model? There's other similar looking Mitsubishi systems.

By mars2000you

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07-09-2019, 18:00

Because ML-F48 and ML-F80 were released in Europe, and because ML-F80 has 64kB RAM as the Toshiba HX-10SF.

Also the Yeno MX64, manufactured by Mitsubishi and released in France, has 64kB RAM. I don't think that it's only a coincidence.

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