MoonSound effect chip

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By Grauw

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25-08-2004, 22:31

Cool!! Henrik Gilvad Smile. *waves* ^_^

By Grauw

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25-08-2004, 22:35

p.s. Wolf: my amplifier has some 'profiles' which add a little reverb and stuff I guess (for music: 'concert', 'hall' and 'jazz')... So as far as I am concerned, you can just compose a song with the title 'turn on reverb on your amp for this plz' and it'd be no problem Smile.

~Grauw

By wolf_

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25-08-2004, 23:23

That's ofcourse not how it should be ^^;

hey let's make an msx1 game .. but if it runs slow then we'll assume that some ppl run it in an emulator and they can raise the speed, same shit Smile

By Algorythms

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26-08-2004, 00:02

Henrik: Godt å se du følger med! Er TurboR`n fortsatt koplet opp? Min er Smile Any chance you might do some more MSX work?

Anyway, as far as Moonsound is concerned, the thing I miss the most is EQ for each channel (or instrument) as at least the rom tones are poorly eq`d. It just don`t sound phat enough. EQ on the main output is just silly, as most people have a tone control or eq on their amps anyway.

-Dan

By wolf_

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26-08-2004, 00:19

ROM-tones with individual EQ won't get better really .. the frequencies in the sound change, but not the quality of the sound itself, it won't get any more 'phat'. It's more like an ugly-shaped statue with some new paint on it .. the statue is still ugly Smile

EQ on the output is far from silly. You can't assume that ppl have an EQ on their amp! I for example connect my Moonsound (via PC) to my speakers directly. Those are amplified speakers so there's no seperate amplifier inbetween.. how would I have to EQ some music from someone who assumes I have an amplifier with an EQ?

Why do mastering-suites excist otherwise? If ppl EQ @ home, then studio-engineers wouldn't use hardware or software like these:
http://www.avalondesign.com/eq2077.html
http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/ozone/guides.html#
(click the green'ish image in the centre to see the mastering-EQ)

The Avalon is expensive stuff btw ..

Anyway, the ROM is indeed the reason I want to use RAM :)

By Algorythms

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26-08-2004, 00:42

Hehe.. Hey, I know what mastering is.. I work at a studio as my dayjob. But to rebuild a moonsound just to have a tonecontrol on the output seems wrong to me. And mastering is much more about compressors in different frequencies than eq. Mixing a tune requires at least levels AND eq IMO (as eq`ing the samplestones you use externally continuously as the sound layer is building up is far to much work) is more on the right level if you ask me. But hey, that`s my opinion.

By wolf_

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26-08-2004, 00:47

sure .. I was only referring to the 'if the Moonsound would have a DSP chip' case that global stuff wouldn't be that bad.. (well, individual stuff is always better ofcourse, but I expect a heavier price then)

By ro

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26-08-2004, 09:52

I'm talking about a global/mastering EQ, for all channels .. which isn't a bad idea at all. Sure, a seperate EQ for each channels is nicer .. but that's more like a mixing-EQ.

I'm talking about a 'mastering'-EQ, which basically means 'an EQ for the whole output'.. which is common practice for all studios and mastering-suites on this blue planet ..

Well then you'd need some x-channels Parametric EQ which you'd better have as an outboard... or you'd route it through your PC using some great plugin (TC for example)

By wolf_

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26-08-2004, 10:11

You don't want external things! How many times do I have to repeat that ? Smile Whatever the sound has to be, it all has to come from the Moonsound itself. You can't assume that everyone (1) has all the outboard equip. and (2) knows how to use it properly.

A low-band, mid-band and high-band -yes it's not A-class I know!- as a global end-EQ on a Moonsound would be sufficient enough to give a bit more depth to a tune.

By Grauw

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26-08-2004, 13:16

You can assume that just as much as that you can assume that someone has got a 'next-version' Moonsound. I for sure will resent having to buy one, for I already got one which was expensive enough by itself when I bought it.

I'd rather re-use it and buy some external thingie (hopefully cheaper than an entire new Moonsound) which I can route the Moonsound's audio-out through before going to the speakers. It would basically be the same... Whether it's inside the casing or 10 cm outside...

But, er, really, I didn't give my Moonsound that 640kB of RAM for nothing Smile. So my vote goes to just keeping things the way they are now ^_^. Not that I believe this will actually happen anyway, unless you find some hardware developer crazy enough to start a project like this, and can convince other people to buy Yet Another Moonsound Smile.

~Grauw

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