Obsonet

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By W76NearDark

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04-04-2005, 21:09

aaargh always the endless waiting (so it feels) Tongue

By jpgrobler

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06-04-2005, 06:03

So how is the first batch performing?

Any thoughts on a network browser? Browsing msx hdd from your pc via network, also adding copying, moving, removig files on the msx hdd form the pc (windows explorer or own program)

I have no idea how such a program can be programmed to work with win explorer!

By NYYRIKKI

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06-04-2005, 07:56

Maybe someone should port NFS Daemon to MSX. Smile

To be honnest, I've not seen such program for serial interface, MIDI, joystic port or any MSX hardware (Ok, there is one for 2xMSX, but not for PC), so I see no reason, how that kind of program could now appear for network interface. I think, it is much harder to implement this on real network.

By jpgrobler

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06-04-2005, 11:47

Would be nice though? and usefull, maybe evenmore if you have a network card.

By AuroraMSX

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06-04-2005, 14:23

NFS is probably a bit far fetched, but a Samba server and client would work miracles already and AFAIK it not very hard to implement.

/me is not volunteering tho Smile

By W76NearDark

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16-04-2005, 10:23

Are there already serious programs written for the Obsonet?

By spl

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16-04-2005, 13:48

Actually, only the Internestor Lite. Also, there is a contest, called ILAC, but only ONE person has registered a project: Ricardo Bittencourt (I HOPE it will release Fudebrowzer for MSX2) . I don't know why developpers don't make things for INL, because the INL applications are for the RS232 and for the Obsonet. Obsonet only needs an exlusive application INL for Obsonet.

Yours,

By snout

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16-04-2005, 13:51

I think it'll only be a matter of time before those tools will appear. Besides, INL already includes ping (yeah!), hostname lookup (essential), telnet (!) and FTP (serve and receive!).

By Sonic_aka_T

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16-04-2005, 14:43

I don't know why developpers don't make things for INL, because the INL applications are for the RS232 and for the Obsonet. Obsonet only needs an exlusive application INL for Obsonet.I think a lot of developers can't wait to get their hands on an Obsonet cart to get started! For people that have an RS232 + modem + dial-up account the current version probably works, but maybe not all developers have that setup. I would really like to make something too, but I prefer to wait until Obsonet is emulated. Once it's emulated I'll continue my work on obsonetset, I hope...

By mth

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16-04-2005, 15:25

Sonic: Emulation code doesn't write itself, you know. Wink

Anyway, emulating an ethernet card has one difficulty beyond the usual hardware emulation: to be usable, you'd want to connect the emulated Obsonet cart to an existing network. I see two options to make that connection.

You could add a virtual network card in the PC OS: this interface forwards all packets from the MSX to the PC and vice versa. The problem with this is that you'd have to write a different driver for each OS and users may not like having to make such big changes in their PC OS just for MSX emulation. In addition, this virtual network card is only usable if the routing is configured correctly, which is probably too hard for most users, who just rely on DHCP doing all the work.

Another option would be to build NAT into the emulator. This works well for outgoing connections, but can be problematic for incoming connections. Also it's a lot of additional functionality to implement. Still, I think this is the better of the two options, because it doesn't require drivers or network reconfiguration to work.

Conclusion: unless someone decides to accept this task and keeps working on it until it's done, don't expect it to appear in an MSX emulator any time soon.

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