Panasonic FS-3900

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By Manuel

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11-01-2017, 19:18

I saw the wiki article on this machine, where it says it was mainly sold in Germany and the Netherlands....

I have never even heard of this machine... What is the source of that information? Or, is there some proof?

My personal guess is that it is only a prototype. And I would be very surprised if the firmware would not be in German too, with that qwertz keyboard....

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By mars2000you

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11-01-2017, 19:44

I know that MSXlegend, a French MSX fan, had bought this rare computer on a Dutch MSX fair, that's one point.

Second point is this site: http://www.geocities.ws/SiliconValley/Station/4283/cpag/PAG7... (Contact address is in The Netherlands)

(Home page: http://www.geocities.ws/SiliconValley/Station/4283/)

For the firmware, you're right, it is indeed in German ("Deutsch"), not in Dutch language....

By Manuel

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11-01-2017, 22:57

I think it's extremely rare, that's why I came up with the prototype theory.

Anyway, I think one can never claim "this machine was mainly sold in Germany and The Netherlands. ". I don't think it was sold at all, and definitely not in the Netherlands. There's no single evidence that it was ever sold in the Netherlands. We only have one photograph of it, and that one is clearly for the German market with the QWERTZ keyboard. But as it is so rare, I really doubt it was ever really sold at all.
I wonder what the serial number is of the machine that MSXlegend got.

By mars2000you

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11-01-2017, 23:03

Unfortunaly, MSXLegend does not have anymore this machine and I don't know the name of the new owner. No any dumps have been made, so if only a few units of this machine were produced, I guess it will never be emulated (just like the Laser MSX2 for example).

I'll correct the Wiki as the rarity of this machine implies that it was not really sold in big quantities.

By Manuel

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11-01-2017, 23:54

That looks better. The machine could have been targeted at more markets, but this particular example with the QWERTZ keyboard is of course only for the German (language) market. If that firmware is indeed in these other 2 languages as well, there was probably also a version with a keyboard for these languages. But maybe that may never have seen the real light. Or there may be prototypes of these as well somewhere (or destroyed in the mean time). Who knows....

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11-01-2017, 23:55

OK, if you accidentally double-click the submit button, you get the post twice Tongue

By mars2000you

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03-03-2018, 02:53

Manuel, check this: http://msxwf.nl/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/IB27.pdf (pages 3 and 4).

By Manuel

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21-03-2018, 21:57

Conclusion I take from that article: it had options for German, French and English in the ROM. Not much more regarding this topic. I still think it was never sold in Europe (although it was clearly targeted for English, German and French speaking markets), at least not in serious quantities. But it shows at least about 2 of these machines exist... prototypes? Pre-production versions? Who knows...

By mars2000you

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21-03-2018, 22:01

And 3 manuals (2 of these manuals are trilingual) ... A prototype should be without manuals!!!

By Manuel

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21-03-2018, 22:22

Nice find! Perhaps they were pulled off very quickly off the market? I'm just trying to explain that these machines are nowhere to be found nowadays in contrast to many others.

By mars2000you

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21-03-2018, 22:27

Maybe it was for the DDR. I guess we should investigate in this direction.

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