Pioneer graphic tablet on MSX-1?

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By MäSäXi

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22-08-2012, 14:51

Does anybody know is there any MSX-1 drawing programs, which supports Pioneer´s graphic tablet? Aquarela at least supports mouse, but I don´t know if it recognises graphic tablet or not?

What Pioneer´s Video Art -cartridge does?

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By anonymous

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22-08-2012, 16:06

Hmm, you might give Philips Home Office a try. It used to work with that Philips drawing board which I had, you know, that flat thing with the pen attached. Not sure if it's compatible with your Pioneer thingy, but it wouldn't hurt to try I guess. :)

EDIT: whoops, read over the MSX1 specification.

By MäSäXi

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22-08-2012, 16:55

Let´s say I don´t own Pioneer thingy, but I would like to buy it, if it can be used to draw SCREEN 2 pictures on some drawing program, hopefully on MSX-1. Of course I could make a BASIC program which reads tablet and so I could draw, but I would like to use some commercial drawing program instead. Smile

By anonymous

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23-08-2012, 10:03

Maybe you can try the Sanyo MLP-001. Works on MSX 1 and lets you draw directly on your MSX monitor.

The tablets (at least the Philips tablet) work with coordinates. When the pen touches the tablet, coordinates are sent to your MSX and a program can use these coordinates to make a dot appear on screen.

By MäSäXi

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23-08-2012, 17:18

RobertVroemisse, I would like to buy that Pioneer tablet from him (HansO), if I can get the answer if there is some (good) MSX-1 drawing program which supports the tablet. I am considering that lightpen from your link, but tablet feels more natural way to draw, at least it can be used like pen and paper. Lightpen is more like pen and err... television. Wink Tablet is like a paper on a table, television has vertical "paper" and drawing hand probably gets tired after a while, I think.

Does anybody has any experience about MSX graphic tablets? Can somebody please tell me how accurate they are when drawing? Will there be any "empty" pixels in television screen, if picture is drawn slowly? Or will there be unneeded pixels in television screen?

By anonymous

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23-08-2012, 17:49

Well, with the Philips thing, the results weren't always as intended (and I don't mean that I tried to be Rembrandt and got angry that I couldn't draw that well Smile). Especially when trying to trace a picture from a piece of paper placed upon it. Then the pixels would be all over the place.

By MäSäXi

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23-08-2012, 21:12

Thank you, John. I am asking about accuracy, since when I was drawing with MSX-1´s nice drawing program Aquarela, it usually put more pixels to the screen than intended. Even when I was extremely careful to just put only one pixel to place where there was absolutely no fear of any kind of colour clash, Aquarela usually put more than one pixels to tv-screen. I think I was drawing with MSX´s mouse, but I am not sure, it was many years ago. Sadly your tablet accuracy description sounds like what I was experiencing with Aquarela. According to HansO, Philips´ and Pioneer´s tablets are quite the same thing. Maybe the results are same too?

Do you (or anybody else here) have any idea about accuracy of Sanyo´s lightpen then?

By anonymous

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23-08-2012, 22:22

Well, a while ago, there were some French (?) people (dude, lady & little girl) visiting the MSX fair Nijmegen, who had an MSX lightpen thing at their stand, with which you could draw on a monitor. It worked really smooth and accurate, but unfortunately I haven't got more info. Maybe someone knows which people and what hardware/software I'm talking about here.

EDIT: found a picture of it! (and the dude is named Walter, but that's not the guy on the photo)
http://www.msx.org/photoshoots/nijmegen-2010/light-pens-actu...

By Manuel

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23-08-2012, 22:29

Why not use a mouse?

By JohnHassink

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23-08-2012, 23:31

Probably less fun.

By mars2000you

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23-08-2012, 23:59

JohnHassink wrote:

EDIT: found a picture of it! (and the dude is named Walter, but that's not the guy on the photo)
http://www.msx.org/photoshoots/nijmegen-2010/light-pens-actually-work

It's Walter of the French MSX Village ! :)

Check also this thread on Passion MSX :
http://www.passionmsx.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_...

Here's Walter in action :
http://home.scarlet.be/msx/nijmegen2010/nijmegen_2010/dscn98...

http://home.scarlet.be/msx/nijmegen2010/nijmegen_2010/dscn98....

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