vg 8235 /19 black screen

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By Grauw

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16-03-2018, 23:48

Looking at this picture it seems like you can just desolder it.

The Ricoh chip beneath it is the RTC IC btw, but if it’s removed then the MSX2 BIOS won’t boot afaik.

By Hans41

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17-03-2018, 15:36

Grauw, again thank you.

I won't come near the Ricoh chip. Big smile

I'll just cut the connectors to the battery. I thought, maybe when the insulation is removed, the battery can easily be removed. But, on my nms8245's, I also had to remove those big blue buggers with a pair of plyers. Too much risk of damaging other parts by desoldering them. Maybe not for someone more skilled, but not me.

By Grauw

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17-03-2018, 16:14

Since the battery is probably empty after 30 years, it’s due for replacement anyway. So indeed it’s not a big deal to just cut it off. Maybe take note of the polarity, if there’s no print on the board or in the service manual. The RTC works fine without battery, it just doesn’t remember the time and settings when the power is switched off.

By Hans41

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17-03-2018, 23:13

I've removed the battery, but still get a black screen. Sad

BTW, the polarity on the mb is clear, there's a large + on the left.

By Hans41

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25-03-2018, 17:45

Today, checked the wires on the backside of the motherboard and did find that somehow during soldering I managed to create a short circuit. Shocked! Miniscule, but still no bueno. Probably should have used a different tip (chisel).

Fixed the short circuit, checked the lines and they seemed ok.

Board back into its housing and connected power, the external drive connector and the small pcb to the mb. Did not connect the flat cable for the internal drive.

Scart connected, power cable, switched on and.... yay, blue screen, MSX logo, etc.
It gave a message 'Bad FAT in 0" and OK. I had no keyboard connected, so could not check if I could type anything.

Gave some good expectations, cause at least some sort of Basic screen appeared.
But, after a power off and on, only black screen again.

It's frustrating the heck out of me that it isn't working. And even though I have other MSX's, I want this one to work as well. Evil

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