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By mars2000you

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15-08-2018, 18:58

NYYRIKKI wrote:

In the end I'm afraid that we have to do same that was done with BASIC... There is now one page that has commands in alphabetical order and one page that has things in order by category... On this kind of documentation it will be hell to maintain, but it seems pretty much only way to make the documentation fitting different kind of needs.

You're right. Because the complexity of these data, it's better to start with the thematic approach. So, I'll update the page I've created each time that gdx will extract some specific data from the big page "System variables and work area" to create a thematic page.

It's only when all the thematic pages will exist that it wil be possible to create an alphabetic list of the ML Routines, this to avoid to change the links several times. Also the existing thematic index is for sure not in its definitive form, I think to later build a table with an column including all the routines of a section, this in their real sequential order.

By the way, some routines (especially in the Disk Area Communication) are without name. I guess people with technical doc could help to fill the empty names.

So, it's definitely a long WIP! Wink

By gdx

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17-08-2018, 10:57

I edited the Programming page. It is not finished but I hope this gives an idea of how to classify.

https://www.msx.org/wiki/Category%3AProgramming

By mars2000you

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17-08-2018, 11:37

You should always put data where they must go before deleting a complete section of a page.

That's why I've just created this temporary page: https://www.msx.org/wiki/MSX-MUSIC_programming_2

I knew that it was a problem to resolve (when I was busy with the MSX-MUSIC BASIC section), but proceed by first deleting is not the good way.

I have respect for NYYRIKI's work. It's indeed something that he had created. See history of the original page: https://www.msx.org/wiki/index.php?title=MSX-Music%20_progra... before MSX-Music in the tithe has been replaced by MSX-MUSIC.

By gdx

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17-08-2018, 12:36

I removed the part that talks about BASIC instructions because I put this page in the assembler section. I thought you had already described these instructions in Basic extensions. If it's not the case I can add it later. There is no point in creating a page for nothing. I always do my best to respect the work of others but it's not worth keeping unnecessary duplicates.

By mars2000you

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17-08-2018, 14:05

gdx wrote:

I thought you had already described these instructions in Basic extensions. If it's not the case I can add it later. There is no point in creating a page for nothing. I always do my best to respect the work of others but it's not worth keeping unnecessary duplicates.

Three instructions are not yet described. Always double check before deleting! Also the final example needs to be put somewhere!

The temporary page will add me to improve what already exits. It's not unecessary duplicate for a big part, and at least i can find easily what was disappeared without first an explanation. I've even a little idea about the final content of this temporary page, but I will not reveal it here.

By mars2000you

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18-08-2018, 11:24

@gdx: about CALL TEMPER, please note that the European documentations use the terms 'Perfect Rhythm" and 'Pure Rhythm'. Don't just translate Japanese docs! I've restored the European names.

By Manuel

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18-08-2018, 11:48

Which European docs? I don't think there ever were official European docs...

By mars2000you

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18-08-2018, 11:55

Manuel wrote:

Which European docs? I don't think there ever were official European docs...

http://www.msxarchive.nl/pub/msx/docs/hwmodsetc/fmpac.txt

Quote:

RITME TABEL

Ritme tabel in combinatie met TEMPER commando.

No. Ritme

0 Pythograpisch
1 Mintoon
2 Welkmeyster
3 Welkmeyster (regelbaar)
4 Welkmeyster (scheidbaar)
5 Kilanbuger
6 Kilanbuger (regelbaar)
7 Velotte jong
8 Lamour
9 Perfect ritme
10 Puur ritme c major (a minor)
11 Puur ritme cis major (b minor)
12 Puur ritme d major (h minor)
13 Puur ritme es major (c minor)
14 Puur ritme e major (cis minor)
15 Puur ritme f major (d minor)
16 Puur ritme fis major (es minor)
17 Puur ritme g major (e minor)
18 Puur ritme gis major (f minor)
19 Puur ritme a major (fis minor)
20 Puur ritme b minor (g minor)
21 Puur ritme h minor (gis minor)

By Manuel

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18-08-2018, 13:05

That is also just translated from Japanese by a hobbyist...

Quote:

Vertaling door MSX GebruikersGroep Nijmegen

By mars2000you

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18-08-2018, 13:11

I was expecting this answer. In this case, we need the opinion of MSX music experts such as Wolf and John Hassink.

What is the most significative expression for them?

"Pure Rhythm" or "Just Intonation"?

"Perfect Rhythm" or "Equal Temperament"?

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