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By NYYRIKKI

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18-10-2019, 16:20

gdx wrote:

For the rest you get the same thing as my program in SCREEN2.

In short, one thing is certain, there is something that escapes us. Wiki is incomplete.

In AX-170 BIOS ROM the character set is actually International. The Arabic characters are implemented with "internal font cartridge" and IIRC there are two sets that can be changed using CALL-commands.

By mars2000you

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24-10-2019, 10:21

Creating a special page about MSX-MIDI BASIC is useless - all is explained on the MSX-MUSIC BASIC page.

Contrary to what seems to say some docs, alll MSX-MUSIC Basic instructions are included in the Mu-pack, with CALL MDR as extra. So, it's only a special version of MSX-MUSIC BASIC (and initially it was planned to use MSX-AUDIO for MIDI).

You can test a normal MSX-MUSIC BASIC listing with the Mu-pack and you will see that it works.

When using the Mu-pack on a ST, the pack takes the hand on the internal MSX-MUSIC BASIC without the extra instruction CALL MDR. This way the ST becomes a GT that has built-in the improved MSX-MUSIC BASIC version.

By gdx

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24-10-2019, 10:25

No, it's not useless. It shows that the MSX-MUSIC and the MSX-MIDI are not the same thing. It does not make sense to put the MIDI in the MSX-MUSIC. The FM-PAC can not handle MIDI even if it is inserted in a Turbo R!

MSX-MUSIC and MSX-MIDI are separated in the MSX Datapack and any documentation.
http://ngs.no.coocan.jp/doc/wiki.cgi/datapack?page=3.2+MSX-M...
http://ngs.no.coocan.jp/doc/wiki.cgi/datapack?page=5%BE%CF+%...

By mars2000you

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24-10-2019, 10:26

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By mars2000you

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24-10-2019, 10:26

Because the FM-PAC does not have a MSX-MIDI interface, contrary to the Mu-pack.

And the condition to use CALL MDR (and the extensions given to PLAY and other instructions) is precisely to have a MSX Turbo R with a MSX-MIDI interface (internal or external)

By gdx

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24-10-2019, 10:33

Yes, MSX-MUSIC = FM(-PAC)/FM in MSX2+/Turbo R, and the MSX-MIDI = Mu-pack/FS-A1GT. It's two different things. So it is therefore useful to separate them.

By mars2000you

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24-10-2019, 10:33

No, because the ROM of the Mu-pack includes all the MSX-MUSIC BASIC instructions.

By gdx

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24-10-2019, 10:48

If you insert a FM cartridge without ROM and the Mu-pack in an MSX2 or MSX2+ without FM, the MSX-MUSIC (the FM) will surely not be taken into account. The MSX-MUSIC is internal in a Turbo R so it works obviously.

By mars2000you

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24-10-2019, 10:50

You should re-read the page about the Mu-pack - excerpt:

"Although the μ.Pack was initially designed for upgrading the FS-A1ST to the FS-A1GT, it's confirmed this extension also works on MSX2/2+ as shown in the video over here.

However, only the memory mapper and MIDI-interface work on MSX2/2+. MSX-MUSIC BASIC gives "Illegal function call" with CALL MUSIC on original ROM as it checks for the MSX Turbo R.

Video link : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0980KEtvUc

By gdx

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24-10-2019, 11:04

This does not contradict what I say. I do not remember much but I think the MSX-MIDI recommends using the Turbo R timer for playing MIDI music. That must be why this interface is indicated for Turbo R.

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