MSX on ebay

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By TheKid

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23-01-2018, 08:00

@PAC: You are so right Smile I just can't explain to my nephew why I like the graphics of MSX games, or why I can't get enough of soundtracks like the scc and fmpac games, or even psg music like TIme Trax.
@cklayman: You are right too Smile I am wondering that myself too. To ask 2400 euros for a game is one thing, but to actually sell it for that price is another. And how many new collectors that didn't grow up (or are even interested) in the 8bit era, are there nowdays? When someone new enters this site, most of the time it is someone who used to own a MSX and was searching the net to see if MSX is still around.

By Meits

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23-01-2018, 09:29

TheKid wrote:

When someone new enters this site, most of the time it is someone who used to own a MSX and was searching the net to see if MSX is still around.

Or it is something about Metal Gear.

By wyrdwad

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23-01-2018, 09:33

It really is the difference between asking and selling -- I sincerely doubt any of the people who ask prices like that ever actually get them. I mean, hell, there's that one copy of Yuurei-kun -- a legitimately rare game that's legitimately worth several hundred dollars American -- that's been listed and relisted on eBay like, 20 times since I started collecting MSX games three years ago. I think the price has been dropped into the high $400s range at least once, but even at that price (which isn't entirely outrageous for that title), not one single bid has ever been placed on it this whole time. Never mind all those games that are being offered for over $1,000! There's no way in hell anyone will ever actually buy any of those items.

If you can ignore items like that, then eBay really isn't that bad a place to find some good deals on MSX games. I managed to score a copy of SD Snatcher on eBay for just a little over $60 a couple years ago -- it was just the three disks and the Sound Cartridge, and the label was a little loose on the cartridge, but even so, $60 is an absolute steal for that! And that's just one of the many treasures I've managed to procure from eBay these last few years. Wink

Regarding collectors getting into the MSX, I actually did NOT grow up with it -- in fact, virtually no one in the United States did, since the system barely saw any attempts at release here. The reason I got into it, personally, is because I did grow up with the NES, and I started to kind of miss those types of games these last few years, as I find most modern titles to be far less interesting and fun than the games of old (partially owed, I suppose, to the fact that I work in modern video games for a living, so the last thing I want to do when I come home from work is play something similar to what I've been working on all day!).

Problem is, I played a *lot* of NES games growing up, so I wanted something new -- something authentic to the 8-bit era that I'd never played before. Famicom games from Japan were filling that niche to an extent, but it wasn't quite enough.

Then I played some modern indie titles like La-Mulana, UnEpic, and Hydra Castle Labyrinth, all of which were inspired by Maze of Galious... and between loving those games, and watching YouTube videos like Banjo Guy Ollie's MSX Mansion series, I decided I really needed to give the MSX a closer look!

And ever since then, I've never looked back. Wink

-Tom

By Samor

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23-01-2018, 10:55

The ebay items I see in the ads here on MSX.org are usually very expensive, high prices even for tapes... when I start looking around myself I can find a lot of it cheaper.

By TheKid

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23-01-2018, 11:38

@wyrdwad:You are right, when typing my text I had the european users in mind.

By wyrdwad

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23-01-2018, 17:08

The European gaming scene has always fascinated me, because it was so different than gaming in the U.S.! With how spectacularly popular the NES was here, it's hard to believe it barely made any impact at all in Europe, yet the Sega Master System (which barely made any impact here) was a big hit. And then all the microcomputer gaming in Europe is just a whole other thing that there's simply no basis of comparison for here -- Commodore 64 and Amiga had some degree of popularity back in the day, but not nearly like they did in Europe, and no other microcomputers came anywhere close.

To this day, it baffles me that anyone ever played the ZX Spectrum by choice. Especially with so many better alternatives available (like MSX!). Wink

-Tom

By Samor

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23-01-2018, 17:47

I recall the NES still being pretty popular in the Netherlands, but the Master System as well.
I was a bit of a graphics fanboy at the time and thought some NES games looked a bit ugly compared to MSX2! Wink ....it's the reason why I never got interested in Zelda (King Kong 2 is much prettier anyway).
I didn't really see much of the C64 until much later (emulation). My nephew had an Atari ST at some point which we thought looked pretty awesome (and we tried to run the games on our MSX, which of course did not work).
At the time PC's were only known to us as those business computers with few colours and bad sound.

By rderooy

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23-01-2018, 21:53

I did not know anyone at the time that actually had a game console, other then the Atari 2600. Everyone bought a home computer, most popular was by far the C64 which most of my classmates had. I remember my nephew had a Plus/4 with disk drive and was very proud of it. My first computer was a ZX81, followed a year or two later by a Sanyo MPC-100.

The reason for the popularity of the home computers was, I think
- parents were more easily convinced it had 'educational' value
- games were much cheaper, or could easily be copied from a friend or classmate.

By TheKid

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24-01-2018, 08:20

I was 11 years old when Philips created the vg 8020 MSX 1. I got it for my birthday (after a lot of begging Smile ) The funny thing was that everyone in my surrounding owned a MSX. I knew nobody with a C64. And games weren't that cheap. A konami or hal title cost about 80 gulden (40 euros), but that was 1984. A lot of guys where making simple basic programs and the illegal game cassettes roamed everywhere. My uncle was cool since he had a double cassette deck and could copy a lot of games within a hour. But with the arrival of MSX 2 and diskdrives, it really god wild haha. In the prime days I gained 40 disks a month. There was even a guy called "alien soft" who lived in wolvega that send printed order listst around the whole netherlands and sold copied disks for 2 gulden each. Apperently he wasn't afraid of getting caught. I wonder what has become of him. Maybe he is active on this site, who knows Smile
I also remember my nephen receive an amiga 500. At the time a was jellous at what that beast could do. The graphics, effects and formost the sound was something MSX 2 couldn't match (without extensions atleast). It could even play sound during loading. I was so much a MSX fanboy, I captured pictures from amiga games and made Mega Demo 1-2-3 to "prove" MSX 2 could match the graphics... (yes, I know, pathetic).

By Wolverine_nl

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24-01-2018, 10:46

In my younger years, I had two classroom friends who owned a MSX1, the one a Canon V20 and the other a Philips vg8020.

I had a Goldstar Fc200 myself. We were playing games and kinda programming in Basic and see how that worked.
Then the cassettes where the main source for loading games, I did not own a cartridge in my MSX1 days, only later around 1987 my dad bought a MSX2 HB-F700 from a friend of the family and he had a few cartridges, Konami Soccer, Q-bert. But most games were copies on disk. I think a few years later 1989-ish I bought a Panasoft fm-pac and some demo's. Then the whole experiences got kinda renewed because of the audio impovement.
I created some demo's in basic and drew the pictures for it on paper, then traced it on a transparant sheet and taped that on top of my screen, so I could trace it with my mouse in Graphsaurus at the time.

In my circles I think it was evenly matched between C64 and MSX.

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