A dream or a hype ?

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By snout

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16-06-2005, 00:43

well, it's not really mars being negative, I'd expected this as soon as I read about the required number. As much as I like MSX, the chances of it happening at the conditions stated on the onechip preordering page, are, well, small. Face it, it's rather expensive (relatively), and the fact the current preorder page is for Japan only doesn't help;Indeed, this are all aspects that negatively affect the sales figures, but the MSX Game Reader was expensive as well, its casing was announced at a very late stage and the order-page was Japanese only as well. It also suffered from a slow start and suddenly a lot more than the required 3.000 were sold. Again, selling 5.000 One Chip MSX computer isn't easy, but it isn't impossible either.

I like to compare this with the C64DTV. You know, retro joystick that does C64 games.
I guess it does fairly well -- US version released, PAL version prolly still coming (or not? dunno), but remember the C64 was far more well known around here (and the US), there's a much larger audience for it, it's available for order worldwide, got a quite decent amount of media-attention AND is quite a bit cheaper.
Indeed, but with the C64DTV 'what you see is what you get'. The point is: the FPGA makes the One Chip MSX a lot more than that. You can even make a C64DTV out of it! Tongue Tongue Tongue

Btw. I don't think it would be all that bad to report on the number of sales every now and then. We'll try to report on the milestones Wink

By Samor

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16-06-2005, 08:49

Indeed, but with the C64DTV 'what you see is what you get'.

unless you're good with electronics:
http://www.64hdd.com/projects/hardware/c64-dtv64.html
(note: I'm not)

By Maggoo

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16-06-2005, 09:35

Again the proof that MRC doesn't like alternative opinions about the official MSX revival.
Doubts about the great success of this operation are not accepted, even if they come from Japan, where the MSX fans know better than us what's really happening (and Gigamix infos are not ridiculous).

Have you ever heard the quote "People who say it can't be done, should not interrupt those who are doing it" ? It's ok to have doubts, and you're perfectly entitled to your opinion, so is the MRC crew.

But truly, what's the point of repeating all over again that it won't work ? How's that supposed to motivate the people who are working hard on trying to make it happen ? Given your recent posting concerning your doubts on continuing to maintain your site (which I like very much btw), you should now more than anyone what kind of impact this negative comments can have on the community and developpers...

People complaining a lot, should rather wonder how they can help instead of nagging constantly (and I'm not refering to you here Mars, I know you're bringing your share of valuable contribution to the community).

By mars2000you

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16-06-2005, 15:44


But truly, what's the point of repeating all over again that it won't work ? How's that supposed to motivate the people who are working hard on trying to make it happen ? Given your recent posting concerning your doubts on continuing to maintain your site (which I like very much btw), you should now more than anyone what kind of impact this negative comments can have on the community and developpers...

Ehmmm .... you are confusing me with msxgamesbox, I think

By selios2000

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16-06-2005, 15:57

mmmm.. not so bad news for me... I still don't trust in that new MSX... First, they should implement all the VGA, MSX2 fuctions... and then thinking in selling it. I think this is not a good way to try to sell the so awaited new MSX...

By Maggoo

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16-06-2005, 16:05


But truly, what's the point of repeating all over again that it won't work ? How's that supposed to motivate the people who are working hard on trying to make it happen ? Given your recent posting concerning your doubts on continuing to maintain your site (which I like very much btw), you should now more than anyone what kind of impact this negative comments can have on the community and developpers...

Ehmmm .... you are confusing me with msxgamesbox, I think

Oops my bad, sorry... I hope you get my point tho.

By mars2000you

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16-06-2005, 16:25

I get your point but as it's very rare than I post about the official revival, I don't think that I'm repeating myself.

Besides, in this case, the doubts come directly from Japan, I have just reported what I consider as news (and Gigamix considers it also as news).

Internet is like a great bookshop : if I have the feeling that the info is not complete in one newspaper, then I buy also a second newspaper, and as reader, I can write to the first newspaper to give the missing info and, eventually, my personal opinion.

By [D-Tail]

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16-06-2005, 16:27

the official revivalo_O

'official'? Is there a 'non-official' variant too?

By mars2000you

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16-06-2005, 16:29

the non-official revival is the amateur fan revival

By viejo_archivero

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16-06-2005, 17:00

the non-official revival is the amateur fan revival
Oeoeoeoeoe!! the underground non-official revival is a fact!! ...and the comercial revival could be a fact in a near future with that one chip MSX. <positive mode>Let's hope there will be no problems so we can buy that cool piece of hard!.</positive mode>

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