What is a revival?

By Jazzy

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19-01-2004, 16:00

Reading the posts in the 'When will the revival come'-subject, I found out that we need to define te word revival. I see that people misunderstand eachother opinions because the have different ideas for the word revival.

Revival: like the old times?
Some people think that a revival is happening when the situation is like in the old days. MSX products are well known and easy to buy in general shops. They're affordable and claim their place on the marked because there is demand for it. Producing MSX products is attractive for manufacterers because large quantities can be sold and its possible to compare and compete with other technologies.

Revival: more than it was last years
Other people think that a revival is happening when thing change slightly in a positive way. An old MSX company launches a new MSX product, it's sold and manufactured in relative small quantities and only in Japan. An MSX fair attracks a bit more visitors than last year, instead of less like it used to be.

If you agree with the first definition, then I doubt if it ever will happen. To be honest, I don't think so.

I you agree with te second definition, you're d*mn right: a revival is going on and we're in the middle of it!

For me, a revival is a real revival and not a little spark. My personal opinion is just like thinlizzy said in another thread:nothing personal, but you must get real. Even apple Macintosh fights and fights forever to keep their little share on the market...

msx was fun. msx was great, but msx is over. let's play the games to remember and enjoy the HOBBYWhat is your definition of a revival and is it going to happen?

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By wolf_

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19-01-2004, 16:37

I guess a revival is a boost of interest.

For me the CF-reader is an important step, no more hacking around with old DD's, no more hacky stuff with various small sample libraries on various disks, and easy swapping with the PC. MRC is also an important step, the MSX mailinglist is nearly dead Smile

By anonymous

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19-01-2004, 17:16

Indeed, 2nd option.

MSX has gained more and more interest of users (AND companies) over the last 3 years, while before it was really nearly dead.

MRC held a poll a few months ago calling those near-dead years 'the silent years'.

Look at all the activity on MRC, the newsposts, the fora... Look at the software being released in the last few years! Uzix, Internestor (actually all konamiman programs Smile ), meridian, and so on.. All great products, great innovation, and all released in times everybody thought MSX was near death...

Many programmers and users that left the MSX system back in the mid-90's are now rediscovering how great MSX is...

The revival is unmistakenly here. Too bad so many people stare blindly at commercial interest, and expect it to be 100% at once. If everybody would SUPPORT the companies showing interest and (re-)releasing products, maybe then we can expect MSX to be in the local hardware retailer again, new software from the "konami"'s in the world, etc...

By snout

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19-01-2004, 23:16

I think there are multiple revivals going on at the moment. First of all, a nostalgia revival. Games like Metal Gear Solid, Castlevania, Puyo Puyo Fever etc. remind many people of the good times they had on MSX, and some of these people find their way to MSX forums, newsgroups, mailinglists etc.

Second, there are those that see there are new platforms where they can get a lot of attention (the MRC being the biggest), which gives them the boost they need to start developing again, or to continue their developments.

Third, there are a few, but growing amount of companies interested in distributing hardware, software or magazines for MSX again. Indeed, currently only in Japan, but it is happening.

I think it is the combination of these three revivals, which are imho not getting in each others' ways at all that make the Big MSX Revival. Now, more than 20 years after the birth of MSX there is daily news, we see software do things we never thought our MSX computers were capable of and we see thousands of people buying new MSX magazines, hardware and software again in Japan.

To me, it's not a matter of "is it going to happen", as it is already happening. In Japan, in Europe, in Brazil, in Arabia, even the penguins on Antartica seem to play Penguin Adventure more often these days Tongue Tongue

By BiFi

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20-01-2004, 06:50

The Pengiuns on Antarctica should try Antarctic Adventure first... Smile

I too think the revival started many years ago. When the commercial companies kinda quit releasing for MSX, I certainly did not quit the system. For me the revival started back in 1992 or something.

By anonymous

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23-01-2004, 20:49

I never knew of the MSX series until 9 hours ago when i was on edge emu looking for NES stuff. I literally didn't know it existed but im trying to play the games and looking at its long history. I thought it looked like a sack o crap at first, but then I looked at the features and the games. I didn't know that there was Metal Gear before the greystation, or castlevania, gundam and macross, people nowadays shold all be reminded about these fantastic origins and not just be playing the games forced at them by flashy TV ads and trendie endorsement.

Its a great day in my life to discover MSX, and i'm sure its just the start of a great gaming experience...

I might even considder opening its own mini site along my own...

Digicreator Wink

By Jazzy

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23-01-2004, 21:11

I never knew of the MSX series until 9 hours ago when i was on edge emu looking for NES stuff. I literally didn't know it existed but im trying to play the games and looking at its long history. I thought it looked like a sack o crap at first, but then I looked at the features and the games. I didn't know that there was Metal Gear before the greystation, or castlevania, gundam and macross, people nowadays shold all be reminded about these fantastic origins and not just be playing the games forced at them by flashy TV ads and trendie endorsement.

Its a great day in my life to discover MSX, and i'm sure its just the start of a great gaming experience...

I might even considder opening its own mini site along my own...

Digicreator Wink Hi Digi, welcome in the wonderful world of MSX. Of course MSX is more than some games but I guess you know that. If you want to explore more of the hardware, then take a look at my collection of homecomputers, a large part is MSX: http://www.mellema.net/homecomputers (even some networkmodels).

Have fun!

By anonymous

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26-01-2004, 21:12

Holy Jesus!

Thats a collection if ever ive saw one, I bet all thats worth a ton. It almost makes me feel guilty about blowing up my Turbo R when i was little... Why they put american power switches on European things is beyond me, rest in peace Turbo R and Congrats to high tech phone, which we can now use to remember them! Smile

Digicraetor 8)

By snout

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01-02-2004, 13:55

And that's another part of the revival: People (re)discovering MSX on a daily basis! Smile

By syn

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02-02-2004, 20:35

I gues I fall into the last category, rediscovering msx.

I got my msx1 when I was 8 yrs old and a msx2+ when I was 12, I really grew up with that thing. I liked the games, and I especially liked the music. The fmpac and scc, the msx game music had its certain charm, a charm unmatched by any computer. I used to use FAC soundtracker, but I longed for more, I wanted actual use of samples. Now I have a pc with renoise ( a tracker) with virtualy unlimited samples, all the VST I need, DSP soundprocessing ect, and all I want now is a tracker for fmpac and scc. Kinda odd.

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