Celesta / FAC / TBC

By Manuel

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09-07-2005, 17:52

I just checked out Celesta, which is according to the description in the download database the first demo of FAC. But, the demo itself says it is:
Celesta
T.B.C.
Picture Demo
#2
An Erik/Willy TBC production

TBC = The Beastie Crackers

The demo contains a lot of drawn pictures with ripped SCC music from Salamander.

However, one of the last pics shows a monkey shooting a commodore logo. THe top right says "This is a FAC production", but the bottom left shows (C) TBC.

What is the relation between TBC and FAC?
Is this Erik the "Erik Duijs" guy from FAC?
Who is/was Willy? WHere are they from?

(I remember that I used to have a lot of cracked games by "Willy from TBC")

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By SolidEric

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09-07-2005, 17:55

Manuel!! Shame on you!! you had cracked games? Wink

By ro

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09-07-2005, 18:35

it's PRE FAC. FAC was a collection of different MSX groups, TBS amongs others!, who all had the same aim: DESTROY COMMODORE!
they already had the FAC idea in mind. Later the demos were released as autonome FAC products.

By Manuel

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09-07-2005, 20:34

What groups formed FAC then?
And, were they all cracker groups?

By Bikkel

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16-10-2005, 15:26

I can answer some questions here Smile

I am (was?) Willy of the TBC group. Erik was my best friend (we lost contact a few years ago). We only were TBC, not FAC.

We made the monkey demo, and somebody must have added the FAC text later.

After TBC (when we moved to the PC) we stopped with cracking software and making demo's.

At the moment I'm only programming tools for the company I work and personal websites.

By Manuel

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30-01-2006, 17:15

Hey, I just found back this thread Smile Cool to hear from you Bikkel! Smile

Is it true that you are from Breskens? (I think I saw it somewhere in the loaders, and since I'm from Terneuzen...)

By Manuel

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31-03-2018, 23:44

I just saw the Wiki article on "Syntax Error" (the group). Seems to be from Breskens/Oostburg and also has a Willy and Erik as members. I bet TBC and "Syntax Error" are almost the same group. I.e. Willy and Erik from Syntax Error are also the Willy and Erik of TBC.

Does someone know? (Let's hope bikkel rejoins!)