"Goonies'r good enough" with keyboard only

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By vanfanel

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17-10-2011, 10:33

Hello there

I'm trying this game on my 1ChipMSX, where I don't have a joystick, only a keyboard (it's an Altera DE1 board), and I can't pass the tittle screen where it says "press fire to start".
Does this game support keyboard controls? All I get is the password screen, again an again...

Thanks!

By Ramones

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17-10-2011, 12:24

Hmm.... Are you using a ROM dump or the original cartridge?

By vanfanel

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17-10-2011, 15:19

I'm using a ROM dump: This is an Altera DE1, and it doesn't have a cartidge slot or joystick port, even if it behaves as a real MSX2+ (NOT an emulator, no input delays due to lame OS, same screen refresh rates, etc).
I know what you're thinking: "You cheap pirate!!", but if you look at the spanish thread about the game, you'll see I tried to buy the game in ROM format for my "special" MSX. After months waiting for it to become available as a downloadable ROM, I finally found a dump (and you have said that you'll never release a ROM version so people has to play it on a real machine, but you've obviated the FPGA MSX that are the future anyway) and I'm trying it.

By retrocanada76

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17-10-2011, 15:26

Yeah, they also start wars telling that for years they tried to reach a pacific solution...The hell is full of justifications...

BTW: Who payed Warner Bros rights for this licensed video game ? Wink

By x-nen Aivalahostia

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17-10-2011, 15:44

have tried to build the connector for joystick and roms?
http://br.msx.org/forumtopic8494p285.html

By Vampier

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17-10-2011, 16:30

You'll never be able to play this game from a dump unless the dump is hacked

By vanfanel

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17-10-2011, 16:57

@retrocanada76: Am I going hell for using a rom dump in a MSX without cartidge slot? Crying
@xnen: no, I can't solder. I'd buy a pre-made joystick+cartidge slot add-dom board solution for the Altera DE1 if souch a thing existed.

So this game DOES support keyboard and I should be able to start a new game with space key if I had a legit/hacked copy??

By Ramones

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17-10-2011, 16:58

I know what you're thinking: "You cheap pirate!!"

You are wrong. I just wanted to know if you were using the real hardware or not. The game doesn't work on your DE1 because it needs the real hardware to work. So a dump will not work.

According to the Technical MSX DataBook the MSX minimum specification needs a cartridge slot and a joystick port. So Altera DE1 is not an MSX.

And the game minimum requirements, as stated in the manual or MSX Cartridge Shop, is a MSX Tongue

By vanfanel

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17-10-2011, 17:08

The game DOES work on the DE1: it looks great and sounds perfectly well. I can enter passwords, wach demo mode, etc.
In fact, your game uses FPGA sound chips, too.

Maybe the Altera DE1 doesn't meet all the MSX specs, but it's new hardware and it works great for rom and DSK. Mine even features 4MB RAM and 1GB HD, VGA output and SCC sound built-in. It even has MSX2+ VDP and a fast Z80 implemented in FPGA, not emulated.

The only problem with this game is that I can't PUSH FIRE, because I don't have a joystick. So, if the game doesn't support keyboard input (wich is a decision I respect, of course!), please tell me so I can forget about playing it. That's all I want to know Smile
But please, don't make a fool of me and tell me that it doesn't work because it's a dumped ROM, because I suspect it's not the actual problem.

By Ramones

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17-10-2011, 17:28

The game DOES work on the DE1:

No. The game does not work. Smile


But please, don't make a fool of me and tell me that it doesn't work because it's a dumped ROM, because I suspect it's not the actual problem.

See Vampier post. The game does not work because is a dumped rom. The original game in original cartridge in original MSX Smile, works with keyboard and joystick in any port.

By retrocanada76

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17-10-2011, 17:31

That means: the game is protected. It detects someway the original cartridge and won't let you pass from the main screen just to tease you.

If you really want this game by a cheap MSX/MSX2 and the original cart. Simple as that.

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