TRCAS in combination with The Games Collection CD (Eurosoft) on MSX turbo R

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By Retrofan

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04-08-2010, 11:02

Hi, I want to play The Games Collection on MSX turbo R which is on CD.

I already downloaded TRCAS from Martos (http://www.msx.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&fil...) and I'm using a cable from the headphones of the CD-player to the MIC-in of the Turbo-R.

When I run TRCAS with BLOAD"trcas",R and RUN"CAS:", the CD is recognized and after 90 seconds, I see a "adjust signal" screen. At that point nothing happen, even if I increase/decrease the volume of the CD-player or change to another track to run a game from CD.

Could someone please test TRCAS in combination with The Games Collection CD and tell me what to do?

PS: TRCAS does only work in DOS1 (press "1" while booting)...

Thanks. Retrofan

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By NYYRIKKI

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04-08-2010, 13:55

TRCAS can only patch BIOS routines, so any cassette turbo routines like in Games Collection will not work with it.

By Retrofan

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04-08-2010, 14:46

TRCAS can only patch BIOS routines, so any cassette turbo routines like in Games Collection will not work with it. Thanks for your reply NYYRIKKI. Any other chance to get it work?

By NYYRIKKI

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04-08-2010, 14:58

No, not really...

By glaurungattack

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04-08-2010, 18:05

There is a way, which might not be called a "solution" since it implies using a CD burned by you instead of your original.

Ask Google for "msx cas" and find those of The Games Collection, not from the standard tape edition but from the CD one. They are 34 cas files, if I remember correctly, corresponding to each track in the CD. Convert them to WAV format at 2400 baud or faster (cas2wave can do) and burn an audio CD with them. The loader at track 01 is patched to use standard cassete access, so it can work on TRCAS.

Of course, the games will take quite more time to load: the original CD used a very fast AM data encoding, equivalent to around 10000 baud.

By Retrofan

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04-08-2010, 18:56

There is a way, which might not be called a "solution" since it implies using a CD burned by you instead of your original.

Ask Google for "msx cas" and find those of The Games Collection, not from the standard tape edition but from the CD one. They are 34 cas files, if I remember correctly, corresponding to each track in the CD. Convert them to WAV format at 2400 baud or faster (cas2wave can do) and burn an audio CD with them. The loader at track 01 is patched to use standard cassete access, so it can work on TRCAS.

Of course, the games will take quite more time to load: the original CD used a very fast AM data encoding, equivalent to around 10000 baud. Thanks glaurungattack, I will try! Wink

By Retrofan

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05-08-2010, 09:48

There is a way, which might not be called a "solution" since it implies using a CD burned by you instead of your original.

Ask Google for "msx cas" and find those of The Games Collection, not from the standard tape edition but from the CD one. They are 34 cas files, if I remember correctly, corresponding to each track in the CD. Convert them to WAV format at 2400 baud or faster (cas2wave can do) and burn an audio CD with them. The loader at track 01 is patched to use standard cassete access, so it can work on TRCAS.

Of course, the games will take quite more time to load: the original CD used a very fast AM data encoding, equivalent to around 10000 baud. Or use LOADCAS, also from Martos. (http://cintasmsx.webcindario.com/) Then you don't need the headphone cable and wave files, but just the cas files. It even works on MSX turbo R! It uses the R800 to speed up the loading times! Smile

By glaurungattack

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05-08-2010, 13:13

LOADCAS reads sequentially from only one cas file. It doesn't allow changing to another one once started, nor "wind" it forward or backward.

In fact, LOADCAS is almost useless on machines other than MSX turbo R, because of memory configuration conflicts with the tape program it is attempting to load.

By NYYRIKKI

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05-08-2010, 21:04

On MSX tR you can also use rMSX... When you have multiple CAS-files you need to copy them together as one big file...
For example in windows/MS-DOS you can use command COPY FILE1.CAS+FILE2.CAS+FILE3.CAS ALL.CAS

... If you use real MSX you need to use CONCAT-command.

By Rataplan

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06-08-2010, 10:20

@Nyyrikki:
I t hink from Windows you'd have to use copy /B file1+file2+file3 all.cas
to force it in binary mode. I've seen problems without it (but not specifically with .cas files)

By NYYRIKKI

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06-08-2010, 10:31

Yes, my bad... Rataplan is correct... Use COPY /B FILE1.CAS+FILE2.CAS+FILE3.CAS ALL.CAS

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