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By Manuel

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16-08-2016, 10:00

mars2000you: Wiki suggest it's more based on CPC-300, but perhaps it's actually based on the CPC-200, looking at the ROM chip label. And perhaps the CPC-200 or perhaps some versions of the DPC-200 are actually based on the DW64MX1 chip. (Like later versions of Philips VG8020 being based on S3527, and later versions of AX170 are also quite different from earlier versions.) Anyway, I wouldn't call it based on CPC-300 just because it has that DW64MX1 chip... (And I noticed the wiki article still says that the brand is "Perfect", but if the company name is meant (like with Philips/Sony etc.), better change to "Bawareth Ent. for Trade"?)

By mars2000you

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16-08-2016, 10:06

The DPC-200 and CPC-200 don't have the slot 0 expanded. It's another reason to refer to CPC-300.

For the company, I will change that, but simplify into "Bawareth". Actually, it seems to be the same double structure (Bawareth/Al Mithali) as for Sakhr/Al Alamiah.

By Manuel

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16-08-2016, 10:27

I think alshamaa said that "Al MIthali" means "Perfect" and the model name is thus "Perfect MSX1" or "Al Mithali MSX1". At least, that's how I interpreted it.

How do you know the slot structure of CPC-200? As I said, perhaps later models did have it expanded. I think that chip enables slot 0 expansion. Still, just because of slot 0 expanded (implied by that chip?) is not a reason to refer to it, IMHO.

By mars2000you

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16-08-2016, 10:42

For Sakhr/Al Alamiah, you have a company for the hardware (Sakhr) and a company for the software (Al Alamiah).
Here, you have Bawareth for the hardware and Al Mithali for the software, with a wordgame between Perfect and Al Mithali. Anyway, you had first asked to refer to Bawareth!

For CPC-200 and the discussion about that, the Wiki can still be later updated when we have more infos. At this stade, saying "closer to CPC-300" is the same as if I would say "8020/20 is closer to 8220".

By Manuel

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16-08-2016, 10:57

From alshamaa I understood that "Al Mithali" is not a company, but just a name for the model, together with "MSX1".

Yes, it's the same as saying 8020/20 is closer to 8220, which I would also find absurd Tongue An MSX1 with some engine chip is not closer to any MSX2 just because of that chip.

By mars2000you

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16-08-2016, 10:58

By Manuel

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16-08-2016, 11:43

About the original topic: the graphics corruption in Nemesis 3 on that Perfect MSX1 is not reproducible in openMSX. Can someone explain it??

By Manuel

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16-08-2016, 11:45

mars: good point. Perhaps alshamaa can comment. Is "Al Methali" a company? Or perhaps a brand of Baraweth, similar to Sakhr/Al Alamiah?

By mars2000you

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16-08-2016, 11:56

Manuel wrote:

Yes, it's the same as saying 8020/20 is closer to 8220, which I would also find absurd Tongue An MSX1 with some engine chip is not closer to any MSX2 just because of that chip.

Reformulated this way : "This computer is based on the Daewoo DPC-200, but comes with the Daewoo DW64MX1 chip and slot 0 expanded." So, I guess it will no more 'hurt' you Wink, while satisfying me for mentioning the differences.

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16-08-2016, 12:00

Yes, that sounds fine Smile More factual and less speculative.

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