Hadou no Hyouteki version differences

Page 3/3
1 | 2 |

By sd_snatcher

Prophet (3019)

sd_snatcher's picture

11-08-2019, 05:01

The Panasonic MSX2+ machines block the reading of external memory mapper I/O ports. This is probably what's causing you headaches with software that do what they shouldn't.

By Manuel

Ascended (15539)

Manuel's picture

11-08-2019, 11:22

Well, apparently MemMan 2.0 did this wrong and MemMan 2.42 does this right. So, that's not a problem, as 2.42 is the latest version.
As sd_snatcher says, no program really would need to read these mapper I/O ports, so software that doesn't work on that machine with an external mapper is buggy and could be fixed. It's not a flaw of your machine!

By wyrdwad

Paladin (773)

wyrdwad's picture

13-08-2019, 16:36

OK, so I finally had time to sit down with this again. Tried sticking MemMan 2.42 onto the disk with FastCopy 3.0, and MemMan does seem to load OK... but after that, I have NO IDEA what to do. I'm just left with an MSX-BASIC "Ok" prompt, and when I LIST, there's no program in memory. And the documentation for MemMan 2.42 seems to be in Dutch, so... yeah... I'm kind of at a loss on how to proceed! Wink

In the meantime, though, I scanned and uploaded the box art in 400dpi, as well as DSK rips of the no-kanji-rom version of the game. You can download all of this here:

https://www.sendspace.com/filegroup/QtJwNUncBmhrP%2FX5wIlTgw

The DSK rips of graphic disks 1, 2, and 3 should be perfect as-is, since those disks contain no copy protection and I had no trouble ripping them. The main disk, however, DOES have copy protection, as previously noted, so the version in this zip has been cracked by Max Iwamoto, with both the cracked DSK and the IPS patch for cracking my Disk Manager rip included.

This crack is flawed, however, as previously noted in this topic: the intro loops, and the Studio WING logo at the beginning is partially cut off. But it's a good proof-of-concept, and a good start for getting this game ripped and preserved!

Hope it's OK to post this here.

-Tom

By Manuel

Ascended (15539)

Manuel's picture

13-08-2019, 21:39

Tom, I got the same issue and worked around it by loading MemMan from MSX-DOS. Works all fine, but then FastCopy says it doesn't support the disk drive BIOS of that machine... if you want I can send you the disk image.

I hope you and Max can get a DMK image with copy protection included, without the graphics corruption. For preservation purposes.

By max_iwamoto

Champion (456)

max_iwamoto's picture

13-08-2019, 22:03

Manuel wrote:

Tom, I got the same issue and worked around it by loading MemMan from MSX-DOS. Works all fine, but then FastCopy says it doesn't support the disk drive BIOS of that machine... if you want I can send you the disk image.

I hope you and Max can get a DMK image with copy protection included, without the graphics corruption. For preservation purposes.

We are working on it...

By Manuel

Ascended (15539)

Manuel's picture

13-08-2019, 22:23

You guys are awesome.

By Grauw

Ascended (8200)

Grauw's picture

14-08-2019, 00:23

I think you guys are awesome too!

By gdx

Prophet (2867)

gdx's picture

14-08-2019, 00:34

Thank you!

Page 3/3
1 | 2 |