Music from ANMA productions (No Fuss)

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By ren

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24-03-2017, 16:56

When looking at the disk contents of No Fuss, Nosh, and probably others, you'll find multiple .MUS files. I guess those are music files, not Soundtracker though. They also can't be opened with ANMA's RED (Music Recorder/Editor).

Good chance they're compiled RED (.AMU) files?

Does anyone know if the files can be replayed (or perhaps decompiled) somehow (or if perhaps a No Fuss .kss exists)?

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By Meits

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24-03-2017, 18:03

Did they release their music editor? I thought they never did. Or I must have overlooked it.

By ren

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24-03-2017, 18:18

@Meits MCCM Millenium CD 1 Wink

By ro

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27-03-2017, 10:30

Yeah, I've talked to Andre (in the past) and he said never to publicly release his editor since it was to obscure to use. Love to check that one.

By Meits

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24-03-2017, 20:34

That means I have it too? Darn!
I bet they compressed the music and used a replayed that decompresses it. If RED can't load compressed data (which wouldn't surprise me since it was their own private editor) someone needs to find out how it is compressed and write a tool for that...
Could be wrong, but I think it's plausible.

By stompetower

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27-03-2017, 09:42

Yes, the .MUS files are indeed compiled/converted .AMU files.
Each .AMU file is about 110kB no matter the length of the composition.
A .MUS file has the same data but much more compact.
This was done to reduce complexity and increase efficiency of the editor.
There is a converter that brings .AMU -> .MUS.
There is no converter the other way (.MUS -> .AMU), but it is technically possible.

ANMA's RED (Recorder/EDitor) was released on the MCCM Millennium CD 1.
---> SOFTWARE\COPYRGHT\ANMA\MUSICRED.DI2
There are also 13 disk-files of .AMU files.

However, there was no manual of the editor released, so indeed it looks very obscure at first sight.

By the way, I am the 'AN' of ANMA, so you can trust this info to be correct ;-)

By ro

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27-03-2017, 10:32

Hai André, nice to see you wandering around here!

By ren

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27-03-2017, 15:17

Hehe, Stompetower (what happened to Highkerspel? Wink) Wb? Smile
(I was thinking about asking if anyone knew 'they' (you) were still active (on MSX) Wink)

Are you willing to share the No Fuss .AMU's (provided you still have them)?

I was looking into possibilities to log the music actually, and create a VGM pack for it eventually (and perhaps a YT soundtrack vid (or let master JH manage that Wink))

Of course I can play through the game (could be fun, as I never finished it..) and log as I go (any way to cheat / skip levels btw? Smile), but having disposal over the original tracker files is much cooler of course!

By stompetower

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27-03-2017, 19:15

Hello!
No ANMA headquarters anymore in Highkerspel Wink Parents still live there though.

ren: do you have access to the MCCM Millennium CD's? The No Fuss .AMU's are there, AFAIK.

I have them here, but I think it's fair to ask Martijn's (ehh, Knightram's) permission before sharing. He's the author.

Maybe there is more to share, but I am not sure whether it is interesting after all those years LOL!

By Manuel

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27-03-2017, 20:25

Those disks do not contain No Fuss tunes, as far as i could see.

By Manuel

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27-03-2017, 20:32

By the way, great to have you back on board! We spoke once at the Tilburg fair where you sold your last stock for 15 guilders per game Smile so um, i read the interview in MSX-Engine Magazine.... I thought you were only in for the money? Wink Got nostalgic after all these years?

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