Pyramid Sorcerian

By wyrdwad

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24-08-2015, 06:23

Hey guys,

Just wondering if anyone here has played Pyramid Sorcerian, and can answer a few questions about... er... getting it running.

I have a pretty extensive Falcom collection, but Pyramid Sorcerian is one game I don't own, as I can't seem to find a copy of it for sale anywhere. So I figured I'd check out a .dsk image of it in the meantime (ZZZ-UNK-PYRAMID SORCERIAN[DISK 1 OF 3].dsk et al.), and unlike just about every other game I've ever tried writing to .dsk (save for SD Snatcher, which I just can't get to work for the life of me), Pyramid Sorcerian just refuses to start for me. When I pop disk one in, I get a blue screen and my system freezes. I tried holding Ctrl at bootup, and the same thing happened. So I downloaded another copy of the .dsk image (Pyramid Sorcerian (1992)(Brother Industries)(jp)(Disk 1 of 3)[b].dsk et al.) and tried that, and this time, I'm getting a mess of color for a split second, but then it freezes on a blue screen again. And again, holding Ctrl at bootup makes no difference.

I'm assuming it's one of three things:
- These are both bad rips.
- There's some form of copy protection involved.
- Pyramid Sorcerian is not meant to be a standalone game, but an expansion pack for regular Sorcerian.

But I'm not sure which of these is the correct solution, and was wondering if anyone here who's more familiar with the game could help me out.

Thanks for any help you can give!

-Tom

EDIT: Oh yeah, system specs: Panasonic FS-A1WX Japanese MSX2+ system, 64kb RAM, 128kb VRAM, unmodified (no PAC or anything).

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By JohnHassink

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24-08-2015, 06:43

I'm sorry, I didn't even know that Pyramid Sorcerian was made for MSX.
Could you please write a little walkthrough on how to start in 'normal' Sorcerian, as I'm sure that I'm not the only one who's puzzled in how to even start the game?

By wyrdwad

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24-08-2015, 06:57

Oh, I don't know. That's why I'm asking! That's just one possibility I thought of as to why I might be having so much trouble getting the game running -- that I'm just not supposed to be booting it from startup at all, maybe!

I've never played any of the Sorcerian expansions before (just the base game and the standalone "Sorcerian Forever" for Windows), so I don't have the slightest idea how the expansions work. I know there ARE expansion packs for some of the older Sorcerian games, but I have no idea if Pyramid Sorcerian on MSX is one of them or if it's a standalone like Sorcerian Forever -- and if it is an expansion, I don't have the slightest clue how to access it.

I may have some time to play around with the Sorcerian games this week, though, so I can experiment a little and get back to you guys. But I was just hoping somebody here knew about it already and could save me the trouble. Wink

The reason I suddenly became interested in Pyramid Sorcerian on MSX, by the way, is because of those MSX Fan magazines I received in the mail the other day, which I mentioned in another topic. One of them has extensive maps of Pyramid Sorcerian stages in it, and it just looks incredibly fun! Really huge, sprawling pyramids to explore. It looks amazing!

-Tom

P.S. Are you the same John Hassink whose MSX music videos I keep listening to on YouTube? And who apparently composed a bunch of MSX music for some of the more recent fan games? If so, you rock, man! Your stuff is awesome!

By Sylvester

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24-08-2015, 08:01

see also this thread: http://www.msx.org/forum/msx-talk/software-and-gaming/heres-...

You need the original Sorcerian to play the add-ons.

By wyrdwad

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24-08-2015, 08:12

Awesome, thanks! That's exactly what I needed to know.

-Tom

By Randam

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24-08-2015, 20:24

The description is mostly right, but disk 1 is the program disk not the userdisk. And yeah you can save on the program disk but that is not intended. Also note that a userdisk for regular sorcerian can be used to convert the data to Pyramid Sorcerian or Sengoku Sorcerian but once incompatible items from either expansion are on a save you can no longer use it for regular Sorcerian IIRC.

Sorcerian on the whole has huge maps, a complex game system and such. If you want to put your teeth in it you'll find ample reason to keep on playing.

If i'm not mistaken Sorcerian Forever has many scenarios from expansions if not all. There are very many expansion for Sorcerian, something like 12 or 13 for pc88 for instance. MSX only has two expansions, but the levels are basically the same as the pc88 versions. Too bad not more expansions were ported because those things are awesome.

By RobertVroemisse

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25-08-2015, 16:58

JohnHassink wrote:

I'm sorry, I didn't even know that Pyramid Sorcerian was made for MSX.

Never had a closer look at the software shelves of Rieks? He owns it you silly sod Wink

By OeiOeiVogeltje

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26-08-2015, 00:19

Sylvester wrote:

see also this thread: http://www.msx.org/forum/msx-talk/software-and-gaming/heres-...

You need the original Sorcerian to play the add-ons.

i dont think any of those download links work anymore