SofaRun 3.2 & SofaROM 2.4 released

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By moldov31337

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12-02-2019, 10:41

Louthrax wrote:

Ok, Igor, can you try with this one (same procedure as before) ?

You'll have to choose witch SCC mode to use at boot time (SCC or SCC+), and also which SCC slot to use. Play with these settings to see if it fixes something (specially the "Slot" setting).

Is this mode settings menu is something special to SofaRun (Disk1 is patched) or this is real thing coming from original disk?

One more thing, colleagues, I would be really appreciated if someone will share with original dumps of Snatcher and SD Snatcher. I doubt on the dumps which I have now, even they work on emulators. Bad dumps were confirmed by troubleshooting.

I have CIB games of Snatcher and SD Snatcher with disks but there are some issues with the disks now. I would say that I legally own them. But SD Snatcher Disks are apparently overwritten and disk 2 is physically damaged. Snatcher disks were full of mold and sticky stuff. I cleaned them but couldn't read. I shared with 600 dpi scans of Snatchers and Mitsume ga Tooru, but have no disks to play:)))

If someone will share or show me the links where I can get the proper copies, that would be great.

By Manuel

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12-02-2019, 21:16

moldov31337 wrote:

Is this mode settings menu is something special to SofaRun (Disk1 is patched) or this is real thing coming from original disk?

I think the latter. It just warns you that you tried to boot the game from the wrong disk.

By moldov31337

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12-03-2019, 04:54

Continuing the tread because I still have the issues with SD Snatcher

So Louthrax's disk work. I patched them with Melancholia and able to play SD Snatcher now. But I would like to clarify few things:

- Louthrax - is this specially patched of SD Snatcher You provided me with? Or original dump?

- I patched with Melancholia patch to be able to play with SD Snatcher and Snatcher Sound cartridge. But I was really surprised when I noticed that Disk patched for SD Snatcher cartridge also works with Snatcher cartridge. How come? I thought that SD Snatcher patched for SD Snatcher cart should work only with SD Snatcher cart and SD Snatcher patched for Snatcher cart should work only with Snatcher cart. But they work in both directions. Why Melancholia separates those patches?

- Peter kindly provided me with dumps but they don't work. Only Louthrax's disk works. I tried different dumps - no luck. Patched, original - no way. Also neither Peter's, neither Louthrax, neither other dumps I got doesn't match CRC mentioned on Romhacking site. Romhacking says that ZZZ-UNK-SD SNATCHER JAPANESE FOR SCC+[DISK 1].dsk should have
CRC32: 74DF1878. It mentioned on two pages Oasis and Melancholia pages. But the dumps I could find have absolutely different CRC and MD5 hashes.

By Louthrax

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12-03-2019, 21:59

Hi Moldov,

  • The Project Melancholia translation (beside the translaion) also patches the game to work on Snatcher, SD Snatcher and even standard SCC cartridges (with the same code and patch). The code is well done, and works on all MSX 2 compatible machines.
  • The original SD Snatcher disks will only work with the SD Snatcher cartridge (and maybe also have a disk-protection, not completely sure about that).
  • Some cracks (like the one I sent you from Martos), are also well coded, but some other will crash depending on your MSX machine configuration (RAM and DiskROM in the same slot, SCC and RAM in the same slot, weather conditions, etc...).

By Manuel

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12-03-2019, 23:05

Louthrax, are you sure about that first point? The manual says

Quote:

- There are three versions available:
[1] translation for the game with 64kB RAM & SD Snatcher sound cartridge.
[2] translation for the game with 64kB RAM & Snatcher sound cartridge.
[3] translation for the game with 128kB RAM (mapped) & ANY SCC/SCC-I sound

Ah, I guess you mean that number 3 is that universal one. So if that one was used, it works everywhere, indeed Smile

By Manuel

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12-03-2019, 23:11

About the CRC's: I don't see any mentioned on the Project Melancholia website, nor in the manual. I think you need a dump of the original disks with copy protection removed, unless you want to patch your original disks. And that is not what I'd recommend (nor does the manual).

By moldov31337

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12-03-2019, 23:14

Quote:

The Project Melancholia translation (beside the translaion) also patches the game to work on Snatcher, SD Snatcher and even standard SCC cartridges (with the same code and patch). The code is well done, and works on all MSX 2 compatible machines.

- yes it's mentioned in manual that it can be patched for Snatcher and for SD but it's quite weird to see it working independently of type of cart inserted.

Quote:

The original SD Snatcher disks will only work with the SD Snatcher cartridge (and maybe also have a disk-protection, not completely sure about that).

- yes, the 1st disk has disk protection.

Quote:

Some cracks (like the one I sent you from Martos), are also well coded, but some other will crash depending on your MSX machine configuration (RAM and DiskROM in the same slot, SCC and RAM in the same slot, weather conditions, etc...).

- I didn't know it was Martos crack - i thought it's original dump. And I found dumps with CRC mentioned on Romhacking - patched with Melancholia - they don't work from disk - black screen.

So as for now I see this is apparently NOT SofaRun or hardware issue. And seems that I need to tinker more with settings, slots, drives floppies and event weather conditionSmile)))) And seems it's not so simple like emulator way.

Thanks for support.

By moldov31337

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12-03-2019, 23:21

Actually I used

[1] translation for the game with 64kB RAM & SD Snatcher sound cartridge.
[2] translation for the game with 64kB RAM & Snatcher sound cartridge.

Both of them applied to Martos DISK_1 work with SNATCHER cartridge

By moldov31337

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12-03-2019, 23:23

I was romhacking.net as reference

It says that dump is used for OASIS patch is ZZZ-UNK-SD SNATCHER JAPANESE FOR SCC+[DISK 1].dsk
CRC32: 74DF1878

So I found the similar dump - applyed melancholia ONLY - no way. Black screen. Only Martos work patched with Melancholia.

By moldov31337

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12-03-2019, 23:32

It's seems to be offtopic now and going more deeper to Snatcher/SD Snatcher not to SofaRun. But I guess will be useful for the newbies like me - initially i thought it was my hardware issue - but now I see - it's not.

Louthrax, could You kindly share with 3d Martos disk because it's only work on my setup. I was trying to find it through internet - couldn't. All the dumps I managed to find have different CRC not like Yours which is working.

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