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By wyndcrosser

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27-12-2014, 13:19

I didn't see a "new user" thread or forum spot, so I wanted to introduce myself. I do a lot of Japanese to English translations for NES and NGPC. I've recently gotten into MSX, but I'm still debating on what console I want, since I'm US based... I'm probably going with a MSX2. Happy Holiday to all.

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By ARTRAG

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27-12-2014, 14:43

Hi nice to meet you!
You can start with openmsx

By sd_snatcher

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27-12-2014, 16:08

Hi wyndcrosser!

Be welcome to this very active community! Feel free to ask here in the forums if you have any doubts.

I would recommend you to get:

1) A Japanese MSX2+ or MSX Turbo-R model, since those have have the FM chip built-in and they're already NTSC (Note: there are only two models, one from Panasonic and one from Sanyo that don't have the FM chip)
2) A MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD. (note: get the model with built-in 512KB memory expansion if you get yourself an original MSX2+ with only 64KB of internal RAM). This fantastic cartridge doubles as a Flash disk interface, ROM emulator and floppy disk emulator.
3) A RGB to component-video converter or an RGB upscaler, so you can have the best possible image on your TV.

By Meits

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27-12-2014, 16:17

Ah, a new Japanese expert... Always very welcome... There are still lots of potentially good games to be translated...
Like sd_snatcher says, go for a Japanese model as they're ntsc, and have quite some links to the Japanese language... The let down is the lack of user RAM, but that MegaFlashROM cartridge can help you out on that...
But if you're in for the Japanese software, they do most probably run on 64kB... The ROM emulation is just very handy to flash downloaded .ROM files as if they were original...

By wyndcrosser

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27-12-2014, 16:25

Thanks. I'm running bluemsx right now for Roms and disks, but real hardware is always better. Much like the PC engine, but obviously more complex, it seems that it takes many components to make all games work. I also gave to look at how to convert a MSX 2 to 220v. Thanks.

By anonymous

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27-12-2014, 17:54

wyndcrosser wrote:

I've recently gotten into MSX, but I'm still debating on what console I want, since I'm US based... I'm probably going with a MSX2. Happy Holiday to all.

Maybe a silly concept that need to be clarified, the MSX is not a console but a computer. Wink Apart of the NTSC and voltage issues, assuming that your Japanese language skills are quite good, I'm sure you will prefer to buy a japanese MSX model basically because they include Japanese keyboard&Kanji ROM. As other users said, MSX2+ and turbo R are the best options but a Japanese MSX2 model would be nice as well.

By Randam

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27-12-2014, 18:35

Hi Wyndcrosser,

Good to see a new translator here. There aren't that many around on msx so hope to see you will do some translations on msx in the future.

If that is an important part of it for you to start on msx, be sure to get a japanese msx with JIS rom. The European ones don't have it (unless modded). Not all japanese games use the JIS rom but quite a few of the later ones do. Without it you see solid white bars instead of the texts (examples you might know are: burai 1, burai 2 and princess maker).

Most often games don't need all possible extensions in order for them to work. If your msx doesn't have an FM chip built in you often hear PSG music instead but still works just fine. If you don't have a (FM)PAC cartridge you can't save to SRAM in it, but very often other options to save are also supported like saving to disk. If you want to get a feel of the spec requirements of games check out www.generation-msx.nl

Like sd_snatcher said a msx2+ or turbo r might be a good way to go. The MegaFlashRom is very convenient if you want to translate romfiles and test them on real hardware. That is very convenient and have used that feature a LOT. There are rom loaders that can load rom files to ram too but for that you need a higher amount of ram to run them correctly (typically rom size +64 or +128 kb).

I think the Ogre game you translated isn't related to the game called Ogre on msx, but I don't know the game much further than having started it once.

Do note that the translation "wishlist" on rhdn for MSX is sparse and doesn't necessarily hold the best or most interesting ones. If you are relatively interested in games that are both on NES and MSX: there are quite a few and they are oftentimes different.

If you need some specific MSX help regarding translation projects give a shout. A lot of it will work similarly on other systems so you should feel right at home with that.

By Randam

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27-12-2014, 18:55

I forgot to mention that there is a Zoids title on msx, which might be interesting since you worked on Zoids apocalypse, so might be worth to check that out too.

By wyndcrosser

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28-12-2014, 21:18

PAC wrote:

Maybe a silly concept that need to be clarified, the MSX is not a console but a computer. Wink Apart of the NTSC and voltage issues, assuming that your Japanese language skills are quite good, I'm sure you will prefer to buy a japanese MSX model basically because they include Japanese keyboard&Kanji ROM. As other users said, MSX2+ and turbo R are the best options but a Japanese MSX2 model would be nice as well.

I considered it a "console" due to how it connects, but obviously you are definitely right to identify it as such. Looking right now, I may hold off purchasing a MSX2 for the time being. However, I will purchase an Amiga1200 and MSX2 shortly.

The Zoids game just like the NES version, is terribly un-fun. I traditionally enjoy translating games that are fun to play. Also, I only did the tile screen for Zoids in this case.

By Randam

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28-12-2014, 21:40

OK good to know that that game isn't fun. Haven't played it myself. But indeed it's a good practice to translate a game you like playing since you most like will play it to death when testing things through.

By st1mpy

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28-12-2014, 21:41

why do you need a 220 v one?

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