Collecting MSX games

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By ashame

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09-02-2020, 22:24

uberjack wrote:
ashame wrote:

I am not worried at all. MSX never get's old to me. Not having patience was a joke. I'm just eager to get certain titles, which are luckily reasonably available. One title kinda scares me. Road Fighter. It used to be easily available and is still one of my favorite MSX titles ever.

Hard to get a complete one it seems. And Japanese sellers have horrendous prices, which I refuse to pay.

A nice copy of Euro Road Fighter took me about 1-2 years to find. The Japanese copy comes around more frequently. It's uncommon, but not all that rare. Most Konami ROMs are identical across countries of release, so if all you want is the game, buy the Japanese version. King's Valley is similar - the European package is harder to find.

This forum is a great place to build your library - every once in a while, someone will sell a large variety of different games, at fair prices. You just need to be patient Smile

Thank you that is helpfull! I'll lurk and comment here for times to come hahah! Wink

By ashame

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09-02-2020, 22:38

Are there any modern MSX cartridge games I should be looking out for?

By BitSquad

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09-02-2020, 23:30

I have the Konami published Japanese version of Road Fighter. It's not in my trade/sell stack but it's not a high priority for me so I could sell it. I'm in the US.

I think the early Casio version sells for a bit more. That's just a collector's value attached to being more uncommon so I wouldn't worry about it unless you get one for cheap.

If you don't really need the boxes and manuals, you will save up to 10x on games and you will find them much more frequently. My most wanted game, I've only seen come up for sale complete once in about 5 years of looking (it's possible that I missed one in the earlier years) and it sold for 120,000. At the time I just thought that was way too much. I've seen the same game cart only three different times and it maxed out around 20,000.

Here's a big tip for searching on Japanese websites: use Japanese characters to search even if the title is in English. It's much more common for sellers to type out the name in Katakana and rarely is it not written in Katakana. If you want, you can do a back-up search in English but it's not likely to find more titles this way. Only once did I find something this way, a copy of "Girly Block" which wasn't also listed with "ガーリーブロック".

Compare this search: "Road Fighter MSX" to this one: "ロードファイター msx"

Just head on over to Generation MSX, type in the name of the game you want, and copy the Japanese characters. Simple!

Most MSX games lurk in the Computers category, but some are hiding in the Video Games category. Some deals sneak by this way sometimes.

Anything listed by Satopin is about 2x the average price even if it's common, so don't consider those listings to be the real price.

By wbahnassi

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10-02-2020, 04:35

BitSquad wrote:

Anything listed by Satopin is about 2x the average price even if it's common, so don't consider those listings to be the real price.

Yeah, let's not talk about that guy Tongue Unfortunately his coverage extended outside of YAJ and into ebay. And it's funny how many Japanese sellers try to follow his steps on ebay too. Meh.

By uberjack

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10-02-2020, 08:05

wbahnassi wrote:
BitSquad wrote:

Anything listed by Satopin is about 2x the average price even if it's common, so don't consider those listings to be the real price.

Yeah, let's not talk about that guy Tongue Unfortunately his coverage extended outside of YAJ and into ebay. And it's funny how many Japanese sellers try to follow his steps on ebay too. Meh.

I bought something from him on eBay, before I realized it was satopin I was buying from. The game I got back was overpriced (I was getting desperate, so I decided to buy it anyway), but the worst part was that the game I got wasn't the one in the photo. He refunded me, but I had to pay for the shipping back (which luckily eBay refunded in form of a coupon). His eBay handle is teruminkeiichi.

By BitSquad

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10-02-2020, 08:38

I don't think that's actually Satopin. The latest trend for game scalpers is to relist games that are for sale in Japan on eBay, and then to buy those games when they have a sale. You can see that most of the games that seller is listing use the Satopin trademark background, but several don't. I can pretty much guarantee that any MSX games that seller has listed are available for cheaper in Japan now, or they were before they sold and he hasn't changed the listing yet.

My guess is that one of two things happened. Satopin's copy was already gone when you bought it, so the seller got a different copy, or two, he just got a different copy anyway to increase his profit margin since Satopin is already overpriced.

It's the same deal as earlier in the thread where I showed how multiple sellers had listed a copy of Space Manbow off of Mercari.

I found Swing-kun because a scalper listed it for sale on eBay but didn't remove the Hard-Off watermark. After a quick search, I ordered the game from Hard-Off.

These scalpers are the worst. Not only are they charging way too much money but they don't even actually have anything to contribute. If these items sell for these inflated prices then the prices in Japan could easily rise in response. If you see something on eBay overpriced and from Japan, do a little digging and you're liable to save some money.

By ashame

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10-02-2020, 12:52

BitSquad wrote:

I have the Konami published Japanese version of Road Fighter. It's not in my trade/sell stack but it's not a high priority for me so I could sell it. I'm in the US.

I'm in the Netherlands so shipping will be high. I'm looking for a complete edition preferably in good condition

BitSquad wrote:

Here's a big tip for searching on Japanese websites: use Japanese characters to search even if the title is in English. It's much more common for sellers to type out the name in Katakana and rarely is it not written in Katakana. If you want, you can do a back-up search in English but it's not likely to find more titles this way. Only once did I find something this way, a copy of "Girly Block" which wasn't also listed with "ガーリーブロック".

Compare this search: "Road Fighter MSX" to this one: "ロードファイター msx"

Great tip but my Japanese kinda sucks. I have no idea where to begin with a simple thing like registering...

By uberjack

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10-02-2020, 17:57

Most people's Japanese sucks - do what some of us do and look up the Japanese name on generation-msx: https://www.generation-msx.nl/software/konami/mopi-ranger/669/

For instance, Mopi Ranger is "モピレンジャー"

By BitSquad

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10-02-2020, 18:48

ashame wrote:

Great tip but my Japanese kinda sucks. I have no idea where to begin with a simple thing like registering...

This one is easy, you don't register! It wouldn't do any good anyway because the vast majority of sellers on Yahoo Auctions Japan will not ship internationally.

The key is to use a proxy service. They have a business location in Japan where they will place an order for you and hold the items for 30-45 days. That way, you can continue to purchase games for a month and have them shipped to you all at once. You just pay a fee per item, which is usually a couple dollars.

The most popular two are Buyee and FromJapan. Buyee has better customer service because they will pack any items however you want and you can request photographs of the way that items are packaged before confirming international shipment. The downside with Buyee is that they don't use FedEx or DHL. The closest thing you have is EMS but that is actually more expensive with large items. Shipping something like an MSX through EMS is expensive and slower than it is with DHL or FedEx. The other advantage to FJ is 45 days of holding time vs. 30 days with Buyee. Personally, I use FromJapan for the majority of my purchases, and I'll ship 30-45 days worth of purchases at one time. There are more specific considerations that I could help you with when you get closer to that point. Like, I'd avoid shipping heavy hardware in the same package as games with cardboard boxes, because they will sit stuff on top of the boxes. Also, sometimes you have to try the shipping several different ways to find the best one.

Also, definitely use auto-translation. I use Chrome almost entirely for Japanese pages. Set it to always translate Japanese and you should be able to understand well enough to navigate.

By ashame

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10-02-2020, 20:56

Thank you both! I'll have a gander Smile Smile Smile

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