im looking for an msx2

incognito ergo sum (116)

10-05-2009, 10:28

metal gear and metal gear 2 would be nice also.
i have tryed looking on ebay and other places but they turn up nothing.

any ideas, or do you know of anyone selling?

thanks for your time.metal gear and metal gear 2 would be nice also.
i have tryed looking on ebay and other places but they turn up nothing.

any ideas, or do you know of anyone selling?

thanks for your time.

By [D-Tail]

Ascended (8259)

10-05-2009, 13:00

Any Philips MSX2 will do just fine, they're by far the easiest catch. As you're living in the US, a Japanes Panasonic, Sanyo or Sony model would do the trick, but you'll see them less often on eBay. Just pay attention that it's got a disk drive and at least 128kB RAM and you'll be able to play most games and run most programs.

For Metal Gear 1/2, your money stack needs to be high

Oh, and having luck on eBay sometimes also helps. Hoping that there is not someone else in league with you when it comes to buying these great games

By dhau

Paragon (1570)

10-05-2009, 13:45

Any philips msx2 is a bloody pal machine which is incredible pain to anyone outside the socialist european union.

a) 220 volt psu == need a cheesy and hot step up converter;
b) 50 Hz, PAL == no normal telly will work in USA/Canada;
c) 50 Hz == slower gameplay/music on japanese games;
d) original japanese metal gear does not work on Philips.

If you're in USA, and someone offers you a great deal on Philips MSX, start panicing and screaming bloody murder!

By Sander

Founder (1871)

10-05-2009, 14:35

a) Real good converter aren't that expensive http://www.dvdoverseas.com/store/index.html?loadfile=catalog91_0.html
b) Use RGB, Find a TV with SCART support or buy a RGB to VGA converter. That way you can just use your pc screen http://www.recycledgoods.com/item/32214.aspx
c) Most games switch to 60hz automagically
d) Most people don't read Japanese and will play the European release. Or the retranslated one.

Buying a Japanese MSX2 will avoid some possible trouble when hooking up, true. Still, prices are higher. Most of them have lesser memory inside.

The commies are coming. Viva La Revolución!

By dhau

Paragon (1570)

10-05-2009, 16:13

Um, find me a NMS8255 (what, about 15 kilos?) with shipping cheaper then a japanese MSX2. Shipping alone from EU will cost more then japanese MSX2 with shipping included. Also, SCART is Euro only thing, kind of like limp hands and super tight muscle nylon shirts for guys.

All your advices ( Get a cheap Philips from Bas! ) make sence in NL, and may be in most of EU, but for a US/CA customer is the worst suggestion ever. It will turn people bitter to MSX and add more reasons to hate all the bloody snobes in the old world.

I got conned by this type of stupid retarded advice from the friendly euro scamming msx buddies. I bought a 8255 from Bas. It ended up costing way more then a much better japanese Panasonic MSX2+ WSX, and it's just a dead weight, most likely to go to dump.

Thank you, dear EU for making me feel like punching someone's skull until the bone comes out from the bloody pulp that was a face.

By Sander

Founder (1871)

10-05-2009, 19:33

Well, a 8255 is indeed a heavy package. You've should have gone for the 8245. That's still dead weight if you don't buy any converters of course. But, Japanese MSX's also mean buying converters for us. The OCM needs an adapter connector, VGA cable, keyboard and if you want to program it you need a cable that costs a zillion bucks.

I don't mind, that's part of buying foreign hardware. Shipping things with same weight usually cost more from Japan because most traders only want to send through EMS.

I think there enough wacko's on your side who would love to buy European MSX's. Just resell yours and buy something better.

By dhau

Paragon (1570)

10-05-2009, 19:49

Wacko? Wacko!?! You are the one with Philips for USA advise. I have many different MSX computers, NMS is the worst. As someone from North America, it's only fair to warn others from my continents to stay away from Philips.

Any Panasonic WX, WSX, ST or GT is great: 110V power ready, easy 512K expansion, built-in turbo mode, outputs honest to gods NTSC in RGB, S-Video and composite. Other Panasonic, Sony and Sanyo computers are also ok, but don't have S-Video, which is inconvinient.

By Manuel

Ascended (18864)

10-05-2009, 22:42

Note: if you can use RGB, PAL/RGB is irrelevant. Also, Philips machines are also easy to expand RAM in. (Did you know they're actually Japanese Sanyo machines?) Plus, they have a nice US/English keyboard!

By dhau

Paragon (1570)

11-05-2009, 14:47

Even in RGB 50Hz mode is terrible, it has this scan lines going down. Anyway, if people want to buy Philips, why not? Pain brings clarity of thought, and they need to think clear.

By JohnHassink

Ambassador (5605)

11-05-2009, 15:06

Pain brings clarity of thought
Yeah, maybe it'd help to calm your igloo-dwelling, hockeystick-toting, putine-munching ass the f*** down. Djeez'!

People may give some bad advice of which they -wrongly, but genuinely- think it's good.
In that case it's always meaningful and constructive to tell people they're actually wrong.

Foaming at the mouth namecalling is about as constructive as dishing out a blow to the nuts with a baseball bat. Look at my first sentence, it does nothing but help the author to blow off some steam.

From what I've seen from you in the past, I think you're WAY better than that, and this is below you.

By Jochem

Supporter (10)

11-05-2009, 19:21

Some european guy gave you (well-intended) advice, and you blaim him? If YOU cannot figure out that a european model isn't gonna work for you in the USA, why do you think the european guy can? And I assume YOU knew what the shipping costs would be, since you had to pay for it...