Rare MSX sample carts on eBay

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By Hadrian

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06-09-2014, 01:18

I hate to drop in on a forum just to publicize an auction - hope nobody minds, but they are probably of interest to some members.

I have a number of Konami MSX carts on eBay, but of the most interest are two Konami Sample carts. These were given to me in 1995, and they are definitely genuine! All listed at £0.01 with no reserve.

Knightmare III - Shalom SAMPLE MSX cartridge
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331311347748

Konami's boxing sample MSX cartridge
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331311347943

Several non-sample carts are listed, including:

  • Circus Charlie
  • Ganbare Goemon Karakuri Dochu (possibly a sample or pre-release copy of some sort, but not sure)
  • Hyper Rally
  • Konami's Tennis
  • Monkey Academy
  • Mopiranger
  • Time Pilot

www.ebay.co.uk/sch/aurelius76/m.html

I'm sad to be selling them, as I always wanted to get hold of an MSX to try them on, but looking at the prices the machines fetch on eBay, I decided I should probably sell them!

I also have some Famicom rarities, including a Castlevania sample cart, but I'll try to keep it on-topic.

Thanks, please let me know if you have any questions.

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By AxelF

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06-09-2014, 14:09

I'm not shure about the genuine part,
The shalom cart has cut off edges, something we have seen here before on MRC

By Hadrian

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06-09-2014, 16:49

They are absolutely definitely genuine. I obtained them personally from a games magazine publisher in around 1995, and they have been in a sealed box in my bedroom ever since. I don't know what you mean about the edges being cut off, but either way, the way they are now is the way that Konami produced them.

I stand 100% by the authenticity of these carts, there is absolutely zero possibility that they are fakes. If you'd like any additional photos then I will be happy to provide them.

By foobarry81

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06-09-2014, 18:11

I think AxelF is referring to this:

(not saying yours isn't genuine, btw. Frankly, I have no idea what they're supposed to look like.)

By Hadrian

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06-09-2014, 18:28

I see, I thought he might be. None the less, this is a genuine cart. If you guys are taking cut corners on the labels as signs of fakery, you may wish to reassess the criteria you're using to judge authenticity!

I notice that the logo and general sticker layout is also different. If you take a look at the other sample carts I've listed (including the Famicom one), you'll see that they all use the same style logo and sticker used as your 'genuine' example. Only my Shalom cart is different, because it was produced at a different time. Konami's Boxing was released in 1985, whereas Shalom was released in Japan in 1987, which easily explains the discrepancy.

I don't see why a slightly different label shape would prove anything anyway. It is entirely plausible that, for some carts, different stickers were used. In fact, it's more than plausible, it's a fact.

If you can suggest any other means of me proving the authenticity of these carts (without damaging them), then I'll be happy to do it. The only way this cart would be a fake is if people were producing fakes of sample carts prior to 1995, and I seriously doubt that it would have been worth anyone's time to do this at that point. The other option is that I am an MSX cart forger with a poor eye for detail. As it happens, I know nothing about MSX carts, have never owned or even seen an MSX, and I have a flawless record on eBay, having been buying and selling since 1999. Besides, I was a C64 and Amiga boy, myself.

Sorry if I sound frustrated - I just know that they're genuine, having had them sealed up for twenty years, and I am having difficulty in seeing why people would think a slightly different label is a sign of forgery - it can't be!

By Hadrian

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06-09-2014, 18:30

Sorry foobarry, just saw your comment where you pointed out that you weren't saying mine wasn't genuine - my frustration is not directed at you (or anyone else).

By Grauw

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06-09-2014, 18:38

I think AxelF should refrain from making any claims about the authenticity unless he has some actual proof… A few casual words like those may deter buyers. It’s not a very nice thing to do.

By Hadrian

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06-09-2014, 18:39

Thank you, Grauw.

By AxelF

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06-09-2014, 18:51

Sorry for causing frustration, this was not my intention.
I only want to warn people that there are fake ones floating around on the web.
Please read the older topic, discussing the fake ones in the search.

By Hadrian

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06-09-2014, 19:04

Thanks AxelF - I have searched and found a little bit of discussion here or there, but couldn't find anything that indicated why the labels indicate a fake. It seems to me that the label cannot (by itself) be used as an indicator, since mine is definitely genuine - although perhaps if there is a mis-match between the label shape and the logo/sticker style, then this could be evidence that something is up.

Mine's real though, so anyone can bid with confidence!

By Maggoo

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06-09-2014, 22:08

Hadrian, just out of curiosity, do you have a bit more details about the origins of those carts? For instance from which magazine did those come from? Was it a UK magazine? Boxing was sold in Europe but not Shalom so its a bit unusual to see one of those in Europe!

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