Arkanoid pad | MSX Resource Center (Page 3/5)

By Jipe

Paragon (1614)

01-08-2014, 15:35

see original paddle of Arkanoid II
http://www.msxvillage.fr/upload/ark_mono.bmp

By OeiOeiVogeltje

Paragon (1432)

01-08-2014, 16:46

nice!!

By Samor

Prophet (2174)

01-08-2014, 19:01

That seems to be different from the atari paddle

By sd_snatcher

Prophet (3659)

02-08-2014, 00:19

The schematics of all Atari-2600 controllers are available here. And its paddle isn't compatible with either with the MSX standard or the Arkanoid one.

By sd_snatcher

Prophet (3659)

02-08-2014, 03:54

Note: It seems easy to build adapter(s) for the Atari-2600 paddles to both the MSX and Arkanoid protocols.

By sd_snatcher

Prophet (3659)

02-08-2014, 17:27

@Jipe

Was it you who have drawn the Arkanoid II paddle schematics?

(I just ask to give the proper credits if/when needed)

By Jipe

Paragon (1614)

02-08-2014, 17:43

yes it's me
i make it with the real paddle and a multimeter

By sd_snatcher

Prophet (3659)

02-08-2014, 21:10

Thank you for your effort.

By Maggoo

Paragon (1217)

03-08-2014, 05:51

Pitty there is no easy solution available. I made a few experiments of a game similar to Atari's Kaboom! And while most of the elements are easy to reproduce on the MSX, that type of game simply doesn't feel right with a joystick or even a mouse... Maybe with a rollerball but those are hard to come by also.

By sd_snatcher

Prophet (3659)

24-01-2017, 00:58

Necromancing this thread for a good reason: I'm doing some tests to see if I can support the Vaus paddle in joylib.

But I found curious that the OP by hap describes a 9bit shift register. But Jipe's schematics show a 74HC165, which is a well-known 8bit shift register.

What's even more curious is that the74HC165 received parallel data from the CD4040, and indeed it received only b0~b7 from the CD4040 counter. Maybe hap's algorithm is reading an "extra" inexistent bit?

(BTW, this paddle design was clearly made for the NES and then just reused for the MSX. Ironically, it would have been way cheaper to produce standard MSX paddles, because they're much simpler, faster to respond, require only a single chip instead of four and wouldn't require the extra programmer hours to code a driver.)