It's here, MSX.emu for the iPhone!! Based on BlueMSX!!

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By muffie

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30-05-2011, 04:23


Yes, because we can not legally provide the other files. If the other emu-writers are willing to break the law and distribute those copyrighted files that aren't declared free-to-be-copied-around, then it is their responsibility. We simply will not break those laws. Be assured, when we are allowed to provide those files by the original copyright holders we will jump to the occasion.
It really is such a pity that current laws pose such restriction on user-friendliness Crying

As I said before, "competitors" are doing it. Don't want to do it? Everyone respects, but just a few would actually use it.

Not to mention is not trivial to install them.
That's a piece of BS and you know it. Simply drop them all in the systemroms folder and they will be found. Heck even the names may be wrong since we use checksums to find the correct file in the pool.
I know all about the hosting on sf.net and etc... but choosing any msx machine from a drop down list is what everyone expect.
So 'dig' for the other files and use the front-end we provide...

I have a nice installation of openMSX myself, but as far as regular users, doesn't really matter how easy it is. If it's not ready, if it's not "1 click" away, they'll not do it. They'll not even know where to look rom files on the bluemsx installation directory.

Legal restrictions and respect for copyrights , is that really so hard to understand?
It's not about it. It's not about ppl with mrc accounts (like all of us). Just stop pretending openMSX is as easy to use as BlueMSX is. It is not. Not even the debugger.
It's as good as an academic exercise. Perfect for me (most of debugging on the Coleco conversions was made using openMSX), but not for regular emulator users.

By muffie

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30-05-2011, 04:29

Muffie recently went too far with his insults and I had to block him because of severe harassment. It's sad really because I liked what the guy has done for the MSX scene.... too bad that he has, what I believe to be, some mental disorder
C'mon Vampier, stop taking yourself too serious. I actually have mental disorders. more than 70% of men in my family have Schizophrenia. Most probably I'm not 100% normal.
It's not a matter of insulting someone's work or offending ppl around. We're just debating on a forum.
BlueMSX vs openMSX. Could it be: BMW vs Subaru...

By Rakashazi

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30-05-2011, 06:26

From turbor's reply I think it's safe to assume the MAME code included in both emulators can be released as GPL. Maybe we should make a list of any remaining non-GPL bits to disable for a pure GPL build? Users can still make their own builds for private use from the source and re-enable those features if they choose.

By kaziebo

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31-05-2011, 09:43

Oh guys, Rakashazi is away for a few days. So he's still at it : )

By dvik

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31-05-2011, 20:33

I can go through the blueMSX code and identify what license applies to the different components.

By turbor

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31-05-2011, 21:55

For openMSX it is rather simple. If it is in our source directory it is covered by the GPL or LGPL or something else that is good enough for sf.net Smile
Although I only found such a reference in ./utils/utf8_core.hh( hosted at http://utfcpp.sourceforge.net/) which uses a GPL compatible BSD license derivate.

IMPORTANT: Note that the code written by the openMSX devs themself is GPL v2 WITHOUT the 'or any later version' clause!!
So NO GPLv3 for openMSX!!

By dvik

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01-06-2011, 01:17

I checked the blueMSX tree, and the big majority is GPL or less strict licenses. The only exception that has some possible impact is one of the two MSX Audio implementations and the FM synthesis used in the Yamaha CX5-M emulation (which is really not mainstream). blueMSX btw, also supports two MSX Music implementations, both derived from openMSX.

For a complete list, see: http://www.bluemsx.com/license_info.xlsx

By dvik

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01-06-2011, 01:19

Btw, Rakashazi. Once you have the port ready, I know there is also interest in releasing ColecoVision homebrew games on IPhone through the store. I can hook you up with the two main distributors of Coleco games if you are interested.

By kaziebo

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07-06-2011, 21:35

dvik, you received a beta as well. So what do you think? : )

I just got chills seein' the beginnin' of Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake on my iPhone in combination with the iControlPad. SCC included and playable till you need a gun. F-key support is commin' up.

By dvik

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08-06-2011, 02:03

I did indeed receive a beta Smile I've been away and haven't had a chance to try it yet, but I'm really excited and I'll install it as soon as possible !

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