Influenced composing - MSX and the real world

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By JohnHassink

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13-12-2004, 23:54

Yes John, it does work the other way round as well. When the musicdisc Twisted Reality got sold I was asked if I listened to metal a lot. without noticing myself I used a lot of metal influence in the (house) music. Especially Slayer some guy thought. AND HE WAS FU***NG RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!
Hehehe, that's cool! Smile When merging this kind of styles, original stuff comes up, which is a good thing.

By wolf_

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14-12-2004, 00:17

Xak ttog, intro.. that one has a nice bassline, as well as SD-Snatcher

One could bring any orchestral piece of music down to a 3-polyphone structure. Melody, harmony and baseline, that's what matters. If something sounds big or not, is merely a secondary matter.
Someone could make a 32 channel song which has nothing in it, and vice versa.

I know what you want to say, but it's chiptune territory we're talking now. 32 channels doesn't automatically mean there's 32 instruments! Some RoA pieces I do use full 24 channels, but musically thay are like 5 instruments orso. It's just that I give them some room, for release-tails, acoustics (reverb and echo) etc. And I need some alternating to avoid those dreaded ticks between samples.

To me, the concept of 'creation' comes first. Later on, 'creation' can be split-up into composition and sound-size. For me, size does matter, perhaps not for a puzzlegame, but for an RPG of epic proportions you really don't want chiptunes Smile

By snout

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14-12-2004, 00:19

The YS2 chiptunes were indeed quite horrid

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By wolf_

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14-12-2004, 00:22

Let's keep things in perspective Smile We're @ 2004, almost 2005 now .., not in the Ys-age .. (yeah.. sounds more funny in Dutch than in JP Smile )

By Sonic_aka_T

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14-12-2004, 02:29

That's Japanese? Wow, I'm amazed I can read it Tongue

By wolf_

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14-12-2004, 02:33

'YS' is JP, ... rite? Smile

By IC

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14-12-2004, 03:46

oh.. no.. not this 'what is your music creating influence topic' again :S

like I said earlier.. and earlier.. IT IS MY MOOD.. Tongue

Not MSX, Not Atarui not even the Boom chicky boom I hear in the Bar.. It's my freaking mood.. And I'm pissed off atm cauz I'm stuck with a deadline that I'm not going to make... So.. Tomorrow I'm gonna make me a pissant song...

More Baco's and cheerz

By JohnHassink

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14-12-2004, 11:31

And I need some alternating to avoid those dreaded ticks between samples.Oh yes, I remember those ticks, annoying like hell indeed!

To me, the concept of 'creation' comes first. Later on, 'creation' can be split-up into composition and sound-size. For me, size does matter, perhaps not for a puzzlegame, but for an RPG of epic proportions you really don't want chiptunes SmileNo, not in this era, I see. Smile

Although I think, speaking of Ys, that there's been done a good job, using the limitations of the PSG.
Like merging the baseline and snaredrum in the same channel. This pattern must look familiar:

B_BBS_BBB_BBS_BBB_BBS and so on

Well, I know what you mean, but with "influence" I was referring mostly to musical instead of technical aspect.

BTW, I wonder what tunes you made for RoA. Long time since I heard some music by your hand. Smile

By wolf_

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14-12-2004, 11:54

Fragment-based compositions, much wood/brass, harpsichord, dark spooky sounds, strings, intimate rhodes, big acoustics etc. Big music and small music, dark and bright, all tailormade for the location they're used for.. For the moment it's a mix of Vangelis' Voices and 1492, the PC-game Diablo2, and a couple o' movies.

With fragment-based I mean that there's a lot of elements in 1 tune, so it's not 16 patterns here for an 'A' part, 16 patterns there for a 'B' part, and then some repetitions of A and B etc. In some tunes each pattern is new, while there *is* a memorable theme that's easy to pick-up.

Anyway, you'll hear it when the game's out Smile (or perhaps earlier!)

By POISONIC

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14-12-2004, 16:27

I express my self in music Smile

if i'm pissed i make Hardcore
if i'm happy i make Trance,melodic trance
if i'm sad i make emotional music by using strings,piano
if i'm in love i make sweet chillout music
if i'm Psyco i make goatrance and psytrance
if i'm Lazzy i remix songs.......

Music Creating....... its all in the mood

And Yes MSX is a wonderfull machine to compose

MSXTC Smile

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