Metal Gear Solid 1, Metal Gear Solid 2 - yes or no

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By MrRudi

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03-07-2003, 20:52

MGS(2) scripted cutscenes were done with the in-game engine as well. Both methods have something I think...everytime Final Fantasy games switch to hi-res rendered FMV I hold my breath Smile since they are so beautiful!

By Thom

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03-07-2003, 21:04

MGS(2) scripted cutscenes were done with the in-game engine as well. Both methods have something I think...everytime Final Fantasy games switch to hi-res rendered FMV I hold my breath Smile since they are so beautiful!

Haha, well it's always about the enjoyment in the end, isn't it?
Have you ever seen the cut-scenes in Super Monkey Ball 2? An utterly superfluous addition to an otherwise excellent game (Boy, did I enjoy Monkey Ball! One of the best games of the last decade in my opinion)

By wolf_

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03-07-2003, 21:12

Well I wouldn't call Harry Gregson-Williams a n00b really

yeah, I know him.. and I know his mgs2 music, which is rather good, tho it misses some strong themes. Of all the half-orchestral/half-electronical filmmusic that was made in the last decade, Crimson Tide by Hans Zimmer is still the best one.

But, now you name one.. there are thousends of games out there all with rather big budgets, and all with average music... The only PC game music that I liked in the past few years was Warcraft 2, Diablo2/exp. and the usual Lucasarts stuff ..

..that's just few composers in a wealth of companies!

By jalu

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03-07-2003, 22:40

It's perfectly possible to create movie-style music with the appealing 80's and early 90's themes. But for some odd reason, may 80's artists didn't survive the 90's.

As Konami theirselves have prooven time and again with the original Vampire Killer/Castlevania theme in all kinds of new Castlevania games...

And for me, Castlevania:Symphony of the Night on PSX has music which does quit resemble the music of the great 80s/early 90s computergames...

By anonymous

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03-07-2003, 23:30

There are always exceptions Tongue
I bet there are some MSX1 games with movie-like music too Smile

The point is good melody based music is close to inexistant nowadays. But that goes hand in hand with the overall terrible quality of at least 75% of games nowadays.

By MrRudi

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03-07-2003, 23:40

There are always exceptions Tongue
I bet there are some MSX1 games with movie-like music too Smile

The point is good melody based music is close to inexistant nowadays. But that goes hand in hand with the overall terrible quality of at least 75% of games nowadays.

And 75% of the music Smile

(not only the ones in games)

By Thom

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31-03-2004, 13:24

What about MG Twin Snakes? Read HERE for a review. MSX is mentioned.

By anonymous

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31-03-2004, 14:29

hind-sight my ass!
these guys just don't get it, do they...

*sigh*

Another thing to complain about: MGS:TTS is still not available in any of the toystores in my town!! Crying (DAMNIT where is this smiley gone off to?!)

By BiFi

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01-04-2004, 12:57

maybe Sad this one Sad should do the trick?

edit: apparently not

By IC

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04-04-2004, 02:10

well.. maybe a late reaction if it comes to the FMV sequences.. but I will type this part anyways...

I cheer for the FMV sequences if they add something to the game. But nowadays there are games with more FMV's then the game itself.. And I think this bites wind! I think the gameplay will suck big time (Wing Commander 3 and 4 for example).. But with MGS 1 & 2 it is a different story.

Without the FMV's you whould mis very much info on the game itself (especially if it comes to the ending of MGS2)

But then again, the FMV sequences could be intergrated in the gamplay itself..

Anyways, developers have found a different way if it comes to story telling. And that's with FMV/ realtime seqeunces. I don't have a prob with that, but if the gameplay is influenced by it.. then I'll leave it in store Smile

If it comes to the original thread.. I enjoyed MGS1 more then MGS2. Many elements of MGS1 where used in 2. But the effects of MGS2 are pretty cool.

If I had to choose between al of them (including the MSX versions) I whould choose MGS1 or Metal Gear 2. I think MGS2 is just way to confusing for me (if it comes to the ending)

I really like the 'Hmmm?!? Who's footprints are these' gag in MGS1 Smile And they removed it in MGS2. On the otherhand, I like the gag with the Tanker part where SolidSnake can press the 'beamer'.

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