When a "port" or a "remake" of a games come to be ilegal or is legal? where is the law line?

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Par Grauw

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24-05-2004, 20:27

Ok, now that we have said what we want and our minds seem to have cooled again... Smile

Dhau, I highly doubt we will ever cooperate because of our history, and that is what the argument between us is about. Further, as you said, we don't share territory at all. I would never consider creating MSX1 stuff because I don't feel any affection towards it, I kinda grew up during the 'MSX2 era' and that's what I'm used to. The other way around pitpan feels uncomfortable coding for MSX2 because he has little experience with it and prefers the MSX1.

Btw, I don't have a turboR... (do have 7MHz upgrade tho, and a v9958 VDP). My next project will indeed probably be something high-spec. I was thinking of something with a dual-engine, which either works with v9958 or v9990 (so no v9938, but Gfx9000 support for people who don't want an internal hardware upgrade, and to please Sunrise ;p).

~Grauw

Par snout

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24-05-2004, 20:28

The lack of respect topic (Bandwagon) is something completely different. As far as I know, bandwagon were not subscribed to the MSX Mailinglist, not active on comp.sys.msx, nor did they ever show up on the MRC (well, one of the members did, a few years after they quit). It's quite hard to get appreciation from people without 'hanging out' with them Wink

Par pitpan

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24-05-2004, 20:29

I do respect Bandwagon productions because they are probably the most impressive demos ever seen in ANY MSX computer. But let me point one detail: some of their effects were only compatible with V9938 VDP, that's it, the MSX2 VDP. For example, they use the one-bank tile trick, that doesn't work in TMS9918/TMS9929 VDPs.

Par dhau

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24-05-2004, 20:30

Oh, so it's for MSX1 with 9938, like CX5M-II, right? Bizzare...

Par Grauw

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24-05-2004, 20:34

I love my Ys originals, DragonSlayer (Falcom fan here) and Fray Smile. Oh, and I finally got hold of an original Quarth for an affordable price half a year ago Smile. My other two favorites, Metal Gear 2 and SD-Snatcher however are just too expensive to buy from eBay. Besides, I already have legal copies of those, they are on the MCCM CD's.

But really, I don't play that many games on MSX... And I own a fair stock of Dutch and other productions already, so I have plenty to choose from Smile.

~Grauw

Par pitpan

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24-05-2004, 20:35

Actually, they showed all their production in a SVI-738 computer, usually called a MSX v.1.5, because it has some details from MSX2 computers (V9938, space for RTC, build-in disk drive) and others from MSX1 (16 KB VRAM, 64 KB RAM, etc). It also has an interesting RS-232 serial port.

I owe one of this machines and I have upgraded it to 128 KB VRAM and V9958, but I do not want to change the BIOS. Perhaps I will add a 6 MHz CPU.

Par dhau

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24-05-2004, 20:35

Dhau, I highly doubt we will ever cooperate because of our history, and that is what the argument between us is about. Further, as you said, we don't share territory at all. I would never consider creating MSX1 stuff because I don't feel any affection towards it, I kinda grew up during the 'MSX2 era' and that's what I'm used to. The other way around pitpan feels uncomfortable coding for MSX2 because he has little experience with it and prefers the MSX1.

Well, I think I understand. It's like same as there will be no "GuveR800 and dhau" production, no matter how good I will become in MSX programming. Also historical reasons...

Btw, I don't have a turboR... (do have 7MHz upgrade tho, and a v9958 VDP). My next project will indeed probably be something high-spec. I was thinking of something with a dual-engine, which either works with v9958 or v9990 (so no v9938, but Gfx9000 support for people who don't want an internal hardware upgrade, and to please Sunrise ;p)

Lol, man, you owe yourself a TurboR ST + 1MB upgrade on SIMM. This baby will rock your world Smile

TurboR GT is too expensive, and somehow I don't have the guts to butcher it for 1MB memory upgrade...

Par pitpan

Prophet (3155)

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24-05-2004, 20:37

Dhau: actually, AFAIK, your "good old friend" Patriek Lesparre is also a part of the GURU LOGIC TEAM.

Par Grauw

Ascended (10699)

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24-05-2004, 20:40

I don't care very much for a turboR. I like my MSX just the way it is.

btw, pitpan, didn't somebody else say Bandwagon used the SVI-728 (or er, something, the MSX1 version I mean)???

dhau: yes, Guyver is also a member of the GLC team (tho' that's not our official name, it's more like a co-production). So are Chaos, BiFi and Snout.

~Grauw

Par dhau

Paragon (1570)

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24-05-2004, 20:41

Dhau: actually, AFAIK, your "good old friend" Patriek Lesparre is also a part of the GURU LOGIC TEAM.

Well, Grauw and Patriek are really good in programming, I hope they will keep their interest in platform for the years to come.

Meanwhile I am totally interested in joining my forces with you, Eduardo, (then I get enough skills anyway, I read MSX Red Book right now) to rock MSX1 world Smile

I like it minimalistic too. I believe majority of MSX users are in Brazil, Spain and Japan, and most of them have only standard MSX equipment (no GFX9000 / MoonSound elite hardware, not even memory mapper).

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