Bomberman 2 for download

par Whizzy on 13-03-2011, 22:16
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As of today, Paragon's Bomberman 2 can be downloaded for free! In the past time, MSX users have informed Paragon that their downloaded or bought copy of this game didn't work. So, there actually is a non-working copy out there, a bug which manifests itself in level 5, and it happens on both original MSX machines and emulators. The disk image provided on the Paragon website does not have this problem and is the only correct version.

Relevant link: Paragon

Commentaires (22)

Par KdL

Paragon (1382)

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13-03-2011, 23:26

Hi, SCREEN 0 was ommited into line 2 of AUTOEXEC.BAS

When SCREEN 1 is the preset of machine an error will be showed. Wink

Regards
KdL

Par sd_snatcher

Prophet (3443)

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14-03-2011, 04:37

Beautiful game! Thanks for sharing!

But beware that openMSX warned that this game has a serious bug that should be fixed:

"warning: The running MSX software has set unsafe PSG port directions. Real (older) MSX machines can get damaged by this."

If unfixed, this game will fry the PSG of any MSX based on discrete chips, like the ExpertTurbo and any brazilian MSX upgraded to MSX2/2+. I don't remember of any other MSX2/2+ based on discrete chips, but they're also at risk.

Par Whizzy

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14-03-2011, 09:02

Thanks for the reactions !

Uh, about the PSG thingie.. i didn't know that then and now. I dont think i have the sources at hand to create some patch or something Crying

Does someone have a list of possible affected MSX machines ? then we could add that as a warning to the download section.

Thx,
Antal

Par wolf_

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14-03-2011, 11:39

It's using the Moonblaster replayer I guess.. Hannibal

Par Whizzy

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14-03-2011, 11:56

Yes.. indeed it is. QuestionoO

Par wolf_

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14-03-2011, 11:59

The PSG warning is an artifact of this stone age MB player. All old demos, music disks and magazines that have used this MB player show the same warning in openMSX.

It's about PSG register 7 iirc, make sure bit 6 is 0 and bit 7 is 1, perhaps you can check the MB player source for this and fix it yourself..?

Par Manuel

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14-03-2011, 18:43

My Sony HB-G900P also suffered from this. It didn't start up for a while once.

Par sd_snatcher

Prophet (3443)

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15-03-2011, 02:49

I tried to debug the game, but instead I stomped on another bug that prevents openMSX watchpoints to be used to locate the BomberMan2 problem... I hope they fix it soon.

Par Vampier

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15-03-2011, 03:00

I thought it only was a serious bug on MSX1 machines

Par Whizzy

Master (205)

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15-03-2011, 09:33

Thanks for all the suggestions and reactions. I may have a look this week at the source code (if i can find anything Question ) and look for a way to patch the game.

Par hap

Paragon (2036)

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15-03-2011, 17:08

assuming the code is not compressed, isn't it easier to patch the binary?

Par Whizzy

Master (205)

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23-03-2011, 22:12

It wasn't easy (have not programmed Z80 ASM for over 20 years.)

But.... i've managed to patch the Moonblaster replayer and now it writes the PSG registers correctly. I've updated our site with the new version. This version will not give the warnings in openMSX anymore. And it still works Wink

Enjoy ! Cool

Par Manuel

Ascended (17786)

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26-03-2011, 17:50

20 years is a huge overstatement Tongue

Par mars2000you

Enlighted (5848)

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02-03-2015, 22:03

Full maps of Bomberman (MSX 2 version) and Bomberman 2 available on MSX Eggerland :

http://eggerland.msxblue.com/

It's really funny to create these maps !!!

Par FiXato

Scribe (1695)

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09-10-2020, 14:56

Noticed today that the current Paragon site no longer has this version... Sad

Guess I'll have to see if my originals still work. Smile

Par davince

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10-12-2020, 14:23

What a pity, the site is down with the patched version :-( Anyone knows where to get the pacthed version?

Par tfh

Prophet (2839)

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10-12-2020, 15:28

If someone has that correct version, please feel free to mail it me so I can put it up on my archive.

Par tfh

Prophet (2839)

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10-12-2020, 19:19

It seems the version on my downloadsite is already the correct version. I don't get any PSG warning with OpenMSX.

Par Manuel

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10-12-2020, 19:37

You only get that warning on an MSX that might suffer.

Par tfh

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10-12-2020, 20:00

Manuel wrote:

You only get that warning on an MSX that might suffer.

Ahhh, in that case: Let me check again..

/edit/
LOL: What would be a good machine to test with? I tried the machine you mentioned above (Sony HB-G900P), but that resulted in a crash and 2 times a syntax error, while it runs fine on a Philips NMS8255.

Par davince

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11-12-2020, 11:01

I got several warnings on openMSX with NMS8245 (which i also have for real) running some games. But the warning does not always show. Can it be that the warning only shows up once?

Par davince

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11-12-2020, 11:30

Confirmed the message show every time...tried it with Cat n Mouse games; here is the sha
3fe15978448acce89e1cc7d4f60f91ae26aa6eab Cat n Mouse (2002)(Imanok).DSK
I don't get this warning with my BomberMan 2 :
7ab3f25373bfc6f08835e4e8c33d9c78b2b97a24 Bomber Man 2 (1997)(Paragon Productions).dsk
I tried several copies (also demo version) when i found about this forum...maybe i ended up with a patched version...i can not say for sure ;-)
Years ago i had a subscription on sunrise and did run the disks on real hardware...if i understand correctly some sunrise disks also use the moonsound player with this bug.... Oeps..