Firebird English Translation

par Randam on 01-06-2014, 23:22
Sujet: Translations
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BiFi has created a translation patch for the MSX2 shooter Firebird in collaboration with MSX Translations. Set in 8th century Japan, this game puts your and Gao’s courage to the test to defeat his demons. The game now has bigger text windows to accommodate longer texts. Not only the texts have been translated but the kanji on gates and items have been changed to icons. Aside from the complete translation of the game, there are some optional patches:

  • A Turbo patch correcting some minor slowdowns and speeds up screen transitions
  • A fix for a tablet dropped in stage 4 to correct it to the proper colors
  • A patch which enables you to save to Game Master 2 SRAMdisk instead of cassette when you combine Firebird, King Kong 2 and Game Master 2

Look here for a preview video.

Relevant link: MSX Translations - Firebird patches

Commentaires (68)

Par KdL

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02-06-2014, 00:13

like+1.000.000 Smile many thanks!!!

Par Grauw

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02-06-2014, 01:35

Nice job!

Par gdx

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02-06-2014, 10:40

Great job ! Thanks.

Par mars2000you

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02-06-2014, 11:22

So, I was right about at least one of the secret projects that are the great hobby of MSX Translations, contrary to an answer on 18/09/13 :

http://www.msx.org/forum/msx-talk/software/fray-translation-...

Let's not forget that Django was the first to translate Hinotori, it could have been mentioned in the news ...

Par Sandor

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02-06-2014, 10:50

Looks very good.

Smile

Par ro

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02-06-2014, 11:14

YYYYYYYEEES! One of my absolute fave MSX games get's the proper translation it so deserves. Me, I'm a happy fella.
Running Naked in a Field of Flowers

Par TheSpecialist

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02-06-2014, 12:21

Looks very good.

Smile

Par larsthe18th

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02-06-2014, 17:00

Great Job Guys...

You can create your own Hinotori passwords on MY WEBSITE
or with my Hinotori Password generator (Windows)

Par Konamito

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02-06-2014, 19:20

Fantastic job as always!!!

Par Randam

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02-06-2014, 20:47

Mars2000: actually back in 18/09/2013 there was no work being done on Firebird at all. We didn't know it would be released at this time either. All of the work was in 2014 so it was no smoke and mirrors back then.

The first translation I made for Hinotori was back in 2003. Some of the current icons even stem from that version. But a lot of others I didn't like enough. And I wasn't able to create the extra space for the texts I wanted by myself. That's why (amongst other reasons) it got shelved.

Django's full translation is quite nice too and if people want to play that, more power to you. Why it was not on the news (wasn't it?) I wouldn't know...

The project we were talking about back then is a project someone else did actually guess back then and he knows he did. That project is soon to be announced.

Par Meits

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02-06-2014, 21:12

Awwww... enddemogamitaina ain't working anymore...

Par Randam

Paragon (1217)

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02-06-2014, 21:21

But the translated equivalent does... Wink

Par mars2000you

Enlighted (5834)

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02-06-2014, 21:42

Why not keep the original passwords ???

Par Randam

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02-06-2014, 22:01

We kept some that were already proper English. Others like enddemogamitaina which are basically Japanese we translated. It was a choice. Level passwords are unchanged.

Par mars2000you

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02-06-2014, 22:12

That's indeed a choice, but enddemogamitaina is a so much funny password, one of the rarest passwords I know by heart Cool

Par larsthe18th

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02-06-2014, 23:28

= Same - Old + New

= HAYAME
= METALSLAVE
= ULTRABOX

- SUPERBALL
+ SUPERSPHERE
- KOKOWADOKO
+ WHEREAMI
- AUTOSHOT
+ AUTOFIRE
- ILOVEHINOTORI
+ ILOVEFIREBIRD
- NANDANANDANANDA
+ WHATWHATWHAT
- ENDDEMOGAMITAINA
+ IWANTTOSEETHEENDDEMO
- DOKODEMOMAP
+ MAPTOANYWHERE

? HANEYOKAGAYAKE -> Shiny Feathers ?
? FULLITEMDAYOON
? GAOOOOOOOOOOH
? KINOOOIHITODANE
? TURBO
? HOIHOIHOINOHOI

mars2000you wrote:

That's indeed a choice, but enddemogamitaina is a so much funny password, one of the rarest passwords I know by heart Cool

Mars, you could try IWANTTOSEETHEENDDEMO Tongue

Par mars2000you

Enlighted (5834)

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02-06-2014, 22:32

Thanks, Larsthe18th Smile

Par Latok

msx guru (3821)

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02-06-2014, 23:09

enddemogamitaina is indeed an MSX cult password everybody knows and therefore should not have been scratched.

Par Meits

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02-06-2014, 23:17

That translated password has been found quickly Big smile

Par mars2000you

Enlighted (5834)

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02-06-2014, 23:25

Latok wrote:

enddemogamitaina is indeed an MSX cult password everybody knows and therefore should not have been scratched.

I guess that an additionnal IPS patch restoring the original passwords is required Wink

Par Sandor

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02-06-2014, 23:39

- FULLITEMDAYOON
+ THESEAREALLTHEITEMS

Par sd_snatcher

Prophet (3443)

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04-06-2014, 02:35

Wow! So many simultaneous nice news! Even more than I have free time to comment! Smile

But I had to comment on this one. Thank you so much again for translating another gem.

I just couldn't grasp exactly why the King Kong 2 is required to allow savegames... Can't the needed routines be included in the patch?

Par max_iwamoto

Hero (515)

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04-06-2014, 03:38

@ sd_snatcher: I think here is small confusion. With King Kong 2 and Hinotori together without modifications, you can save King Kong 2 game to tape. With this patch you can save King Kong 2 into GameMaster 2 SRAM.

Par Randam

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04-06-2014, 03:49

And it's optional so that if you want to save it the regular way for instance you still can.

Par TheSpecialist

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04-06-2014, 16:05

sd_snatcher wrote:

Wow! So many simultaneous nice news! Even more than I have free time to comment! Smile

MSX news is like waiting for a bus. A long time nothing comes, but then suddenly there are many at once...

Par AxelF

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04-06-2014, 17:16

If you want to be invulnerable during the game, you allso could
apply the Ulver crack IPS patch

Par max_iwamoto

Hero (515)

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04-06-2014, 18:56

Or you can just use PASSWORD: ILOVEFIREBIRD

Par AxelF

Champion (375)

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04-06-2014, 19:13

With ILOVEFIREBIRD you can't walk thru walls, with the Ulver crack you can Smile

Par Randam

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04-06-2014, 19:53

For those that love passwords: Here are the passwords for both Goemon and Woody Poco.

Woody Poco
I defeated lord Jil Bibi

Goemon
MOREMONEY
SHOWUPRAT
CONTINUED
SUPERLIFE

F1 passwords
GIRL
LORD

Par max_iwamoto

Hero (515)

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04-06-2014, 19:55

@ AlexF: That is nice, I will add link to it on the translation page.

I will also add link to larsthe18th's web page with password generator.

Par mars2000you

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04-06-2014, 23:33

For the lovers of the original passwords, here's an IPS patch to be applied on the BiFi's English translation :

http://www.msxblue.com/temp2/FBIRD-RESTORE.IPS

Enjoy :)

Par AxelF

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05-06-2014, 00:07

Thanks Mars2000 Smile

Did you perhaps found out the missing english TRANSLATED passwords ?

Par mars2000you

Enlighted (5834)

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05-06-2014, 00:26

TURBO remains TURBO in the BiFi's version. For the 4 missing English passwords, more tests are required ...

Par mars2000you

Enlighted (5834)

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05-06-2014, 02:32

In stead of SUPERBALL, it's not SUPERSPHERE but SUPERSPHERES

Par sd_snatcher

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05-06-2014, 03:05

max_iwamoto wrote:

@ sd_snatcher: I think here is small confusion. With King Kong 2 and Hinotori together without modifications, you can save King Kong 2 game to tape. With this patch you can save King Kong 2 into GameMaster 2 SRAM.

So the FBIRD-KK.IPS patch is to be applied on the King Kong 2 ROM and not on the Hinotori ROM?

Par max_iwamoto

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05-06-2014, 03:42

@ sd_snatcher: HINOTORI has built-in subroutines to save King Kong 2 to tape. Now they changed to SRAM save. So you need to patch HINOTORI ROM and run King Kong 2 with Hinotori inserted.

Par max_iwamoto

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05-06-2014, 04:57

All patches & links to web pages from this topic has been added to Hinotori page on our website - http://msxfiles.com/hinotori.php

Also we added new translation page of the "mystery" game that has been mentioned above in the Fray forum topic. And it is not Hinotori (as promised ;)

You can find it here: http://msxfiles.com/androgynous.php

It will also feature MSX-MUSIC and MSX-AUDIO music upgardes!

PS: And there is more secret projects available ;) What game have two letter abbreviation as city in the USA?

Par TheSpecialist

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05-06-2014, 11:09

mars2000you wrote:

For the lovers of the original passwords, here's an IPS patch to be applied on the BiFi's English translation :

Enjoy Smile

Your patch breaks the translation. How can I enjoy it now? Eek!

Par mars2000you

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05-06-2014, 11:39

If you don't have the intention to use the original passwords, just don't apply this patch!

Par TheSpecialist

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05-06-2014, 12:17

If you don't have the intention to use the english translation, just don't apply this patch!

Seriously, you've broken all the statue texts. Did you test your patch at all?

Par sd_snatcher

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05-06-2014, 13:06

@max_iwamoto

Ok, thanks for the explanation. Smile

I was a bit confused because:

1) It will require 3 cartridges to be connected at the same time. In most MSX models, that means a slot expander will be needed

2) When GM2 is used together with KK2, GM2 can save/load states directly.

Par anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

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05-06-2014, 13:20

I have patched the game with the 4 patches included in the zip file. When I press F2 and choose a different weapon the game is frozen and rubbish appears on the screen. Tested on a real MSX Turbo R and 8245.

Par mars2000you

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05-06-2014, 14:11

Valkyr wrote:

I have patched the game with the 4 patches included in the zip file. When I press F2 and choose a different weapon the game is frozen and rubbish appears on the screen. Tested on a real MSX Turbo R and 8245.

Do you have patched the good rom ? It must be the rom in the GoodMSX package with the mx2 extension.

Par Sandor

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05-06-2014, 19:11

There is another bug in the beginning of Level 5.
When you touch the first firebird-statue on your right a message appears.
Normally you can continue by pressing the space bar.
Nothing happens, the text box doesn't disappear.
But the music keeps playing.

tested in openmsx
patched rom with english ips and original passwords ips.

Par mars2000you

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05-06-2014, 20:09

I don't recommend to test with the original passwords IPS, because I've simply re-introduced the original passwords in their original code zone.

Obviously, the zone of these data has been moved to another place in the BiFi translation, as code has been added to include the statue texts. So, my IPS patch has as effect to 'delete' part of this new code and to provoke at least the first mentioned problem.

The file is no more on line. Max, can you please remove the link to this file ? Thanks.

Par TheSpecialist

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05-06-2014, 20:21

Why did you argue with me when I told you that 9 hours ago...

Par max_iwamoto

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05-06-2014, 22:05

@mars2000: it has been removed.

Par anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

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06-06-2014, 11:05

Ok, with the GoodMSX´s rom the game works fine in real MSX.

Par Ramones

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06-06-2014, 19:32

Great job ! Thanks. Awesome work. Wink

Par SkyeWelse

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06-06-2014, 21:14

Hi everyone, I'm looking forward to experiencing FIrebird in English for the first time. I guess I missed out on this classic. : )

Just one small issue I've run into, I was attempting to patch the Hinotori.rom with the 3 different IPS patches and I don't think I had success. I applied the patches in this order, using the IPS patcher program called Lunar IPS. I first did the EN patch, then the Turbo patch (since I'm running this on a Turbo R GT) and then lastly the KK Fix patch. Unfortunately this results in an unplayable rom that when I try to flash it to either the MegaFlashRom or MegaFlashRom SD. Oddly it finds it to be using an R-Type mapper by default, whereas the original uses the Konami mapper. I can force these settings such as using /K4 to make it a Konami Mapper type and it will write it, but it won't run when I boot up the MSX.

Is my patching process incorrect? Perhaps Lunar IPS is not a good program for this?

Thanks for your help!

-Thomas

Par mars2000you

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06-06-2014, 21:18

You must patch the Hinotori rom in the GoodMSX package with the mx2 extension. It will not work with other dumps.

Par SkyeWelse

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06-06-2014, 21:53

Great! Worked like a charm, thanks for the heads up. I must have missed a crucial step to all of this. Now to figure out how to get it to work with KingKong2, GameMaster 2, MSX-Audio and the Slot Expander. : )

Thanks again guys for working on this.

Quote:

PS: And there is more secret projects available Wink What game have two letter abbreviation as city in the USA?

I live in the United States, and I'm trying to think of a two letter city name, the only thing I can come up with is "DC" which is short for Washington DC. : ) So something.... D___ C___? lol

"DR.CHAOS!"... oh wait, wrong system. Wink

-Thomas

Par TheSpecialist

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06-06-2014, 22:00

well-known city names are NY and LA

Par max_iwamoto

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06-06-2014, 22:02

@ TheSpecialist: Good guess Wink

Par SkyeWelse

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07-06-2014, 00:19

But you didn't say that the City Name could be abbreviated too! lol

So I wasn't able to get Game Master 2 to recognize my configuration with the slot expander for having King Kong 2 and Firebird, and I think I've tried just about every configuration imaginable so I may have to shelve that project for now. It could also be that I just don't understand how the Cartucho Slot Expander is supposed to work exactly too. Also, is there something special one has to do to get MSX-Audio to work? I have Firebird in Slot 1 and the Music Module with Updated Bios ver 1.3 in Slot 2 and I don't hear anything when doing audio out to the television.

-Thomas

Par Imanok

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07-06-2014, 00:20

Fantastic work, guys! I'll try to reach the english ending asap Wink

BTW, translating the japanese passwords is a nice touch Smile

About the clue about the secret project, I thought about LA and Last Armageddon... but I think there's to much to translate there! Wink

Par mars2000you

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07-06-2014, 01:03

About passwords :

GAOOOOOOOOOO in stead of GAOOOOOOOOOOH in the original version

Par max_iwamoto

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07-06-2014, 04:01

Imanok wrote:

About the clue about the secret project, I thought about LA and Last Armageddon... but I think there's to much to translate there! Wink

I guess we are not afraid?

Par TheSpecialist

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07-06-2014, 12:13

Awesome, max Big smile

Par Vampier

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09-06-2014, 07:54

ys ys baby

Par ro

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15-06-2014, 12:20

oh, man!
Currently reliving this game and enjoying it to the fullest. Firebird has always been one of my fave games, a true MSX gem. Now with this translated version I'm getting connected even more, I am able to understand the plot. wow. I'm 16 again...

koddus to the translators, best job in years Smile

Par Colemu

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22-01-2017, 19:07

OMG, how have I only just found this patch!

One of my fav MSX2 games!! Nice Big smile

Par tfh

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24-01-2017, 11:50

Hmmmm, the links don't work anymore.
Anyone who can help me obtain this patch?

/edit/
OK, should have used Google straight away. Found it Smile

/edit 2/
English version up & running: http://www.file-hunter.com/MSX/FireBird.html

Par Meits

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09-09-2017, 03:58

Just (re)started playing this game. Finished it very often as a kid without knowing what was going on besidess the shooting. This translation gives some hints what to do so that's very nice, in game...
It's just that there are so many items of which I have no clue what they're about, so I found a pdf of the manual... In Japaneeeeese... Darn...
Anyone up for a translation of the manual? Or any translated game in particular?

Edit: Forgot my ignorance. It was already translated and I found it after a bit of google Running Naked in a Field of Flowers

Par davince

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13-12-2020, 13:42

The patch seems only to work on the rom, but i need a DSK version of this game to run on real hardware and flashfloppy. Anyone? Or is there a simple way to start the rom from diskette myself?

Par Briqunullus

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16-12-2020, 10:57

I don't know for Firebird, but I do have a version of Parodius where I did this. More than 20 years ago I rewrote the loader and converted the whole game into a single file. Effectively, this was what we call a ROM file today with a custom loader. I could apply the Parodius translation patch to this file. I didn't work out of the box, because the cracked ROM file had a few changes and the patch would overwrite them. But they were just a few bytes and I could simply set those back to their cracked values. That's how I got a translated Parodius that loads from disk.

Par gdx

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16-12-2020, 14:22

Try the Rom + SofaRom on a floppy disk. (SofaRom only not with SofaRun)

Par Briqunullus

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16-12-2020, 20:37

Haha, I'm a bit oldskool. Sometimes I forget the progress that has been made the last 20 years. Smile