Dutch MoonSound Veterans released! (update)

In the pre-order announcement for the MoonSound clone Dal-So-Ri the MSX community expressed interest in an OPL4 music disk so that they could use it with their new Dal-So-Ri. MRC webmaster John Hassink spoke these memorable words in the topic: "I could make a selection from my unreleased stuff... it's quite a lot. But I'm not really in the mood to make a menu etc".
 
Of course that’s an invitation to team up and get some MoonSound music released. So John asked Hans Cnossen and Robert Vroemisse to join, Meits joined and invited more composers of ye olden days and started coding a replayer. In the end this resulted in a collaboration with a lot of famous names from the MSX scene, as you can enjoy music from Master of Audio, Meits, Jorito, Hans Cnossen, DandAN, John Hassink, Robert Vroemisse , Bart Roijmans, Ruud van de Moosdijk and Omega . A lot of hard work later (about 9 months!) this beast of a music disk with both classic tracks and new ones is finally a reality: Dutch MoonSound Veterans (DMV) is here for you to enjoy.

DMV is indeed a beast of a music disk and it comes in multiple versions:

A set of 3 disk images, filled to the brim with music
A Full Throttle edition, installable on hard disk (or available as hard disk image) that contains all music of these 3 disk images as well as a selection of tracks that were too big to fit on a normal disk

To use all of this, you need at least an MSX2, a disk drive and a MoonSound. If you want to run Full Throttle, you need a mass storage device and a MoonSound with 640kB SRAM.

To celebrate the release, scene composer Omega will host a listening party on Twitch, which you can join to listen to the music, both the new and the classics and to chat up with fellow MoonSound fans. You can join the party by tuning in to http://www.twitch.tv/omegamsx on Wednesday July 22nd at 21:00 CET. Hope to see you there!

Relevant link: Dutch MoonSound Veterans

{Meits:
Just after the, as it turned out to be, premature release of one day earlier there was this one quote on IRC:

Quote:

after carefully checking and testing, now is the moment of horror... bug reports...

Two tracks on #1 turned out to have a wrong samplekit, on #FT there was a samplekit that had a hard time with emulators and FM-Blaster and #FT turned out to have an outdated MBWAVE basic replayer.
All that info reached me within one hour after release... Murphy knows his way...
Please redownload to enjoy it the way the guys intended it to be.}

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Par Grauw

Ascended (8452)

21-07-2015, 22:51

Amazing work!

Par Manuel

Ascended (15750)

21-07-2015, 22:51

wtf! Yay! Congratulations on this wonderful release!

Par syn

Paragon (1920)

21-07-2015, 22:59

Thanks.. enoying it as we speak

Par valkyre

Champion (419)

21-07-2015, 23:00

Great, really looking forward to hearing this.

Par evulopah

Hero (661)

21-07-2015, 23:02

Yessss, great, just in time for my new FM Blaster Moonsound Clone from Eric.

Par fernandomanuel.garciagarcia

Master (183)

21-07-2015, 23:03

Same here! I just got my FM Blaster from Eric too... Thanks a lot guys for your brilliant work!

Par Jorito

Mr. Ambassadors (1761)

21-07-2015, 23:05

Woei! Looking forward to the listening party

Par Omega

Master (213)

21-07-2015, 23:08

I can tell you, some hours went into this.. I hope you all like this production

Par Meits

Scribe (5535)

21-07-2015, 23:18

Hours indeed... Lots of hours... Very lots of hours...
Glad it's out... I hope everybody has a great time with it... We did our very best to make like this...
24 hours ago the basic replayer even got a big bug fix... Thanks to MSX Oracle Bifi...

Par WORP3

Paladin (804)

21-07-2015, 23:24

Great going meits, will downloads it as soon as I return from my vacation.

Par OeiOeiVogeltje

Paragon (1308)

22-07-2015, 00:51

ill have a listen tomorrow

Par Creepy

Champion (332)

22-07-2015, 09:35

Nice! Time to crank op the volume!

Par Samor

Paragon (2029)

22-07-2015, 12:47

does this work properly on openmsx?

Par RobertVroemisse

Paragon (1235)

22-07-2015, 12:57

Well, Moonsound emulation on Open MSX (and Blue MSX) isn't 100%. A few instruments sound a tad different and some "tricks" with MBwave don't work.

Par Latok

msx guru (3685)

22-07-2015, 15:42

Still, the README.pdf assumes most people will experience DMV in an emulator. Only 'die hard MSX guys' will use a real MSX with a real Moonsound.

Par GuilianSeed

Master (155)

22-07-2015, 16:08

Whaooo ! O_o !
So good memories with all these tunes !
Very cute intro and a very good replayer ! I love it !!
I've played it on real MSX & DalSoRi all day.

Thank you so MUCH !
Grtx.

Par edoz

Prophet (2172)

22-07-2015, 16:35

Thanks! i play it now cool that you take the time to make this!
BDW: is it normal if you exit the main menu with ESC you get a black screen and nothing happens anymore ?

Par edoz

Prophet (2172)

22-07-2015, 16:53

Latok wrote:

Still, the README.pdf assumes most people will experience DMV in an emulator. Only 'die hard MSX guys' will use a real MSX with a real Moonsound.

Is that so ? :) I use the real machine more then the emulator :-)

Par Samor

Paragon (2029)

22-07-2015, 16:58

Well, good to know it works on OpenMSX anyway, even if it's not perfect.

Par syn

Paragon (1920)

22-07-2015, 17:31

Overall a great songdisk/collection that gives a nice show of the OPL4's abilities!

I had a good time listening to the songs (although this is really just a quick first impression) and I appreciate the effort that was put into getting this thing together. I want to especially thank the artists that aren't active in the MSX scene anymore, for donating their work and I hope this release may inspire them to do more things for MSX (again).

Some songs I thought were pretty good, some I didn't like at all, obviously due to personal taste. Although I do have to say while some songs sound great from "arrangement" point of view, others I felt were lacking in some departments. For example, I felt a few songs could have sounded better with different drumsamples, and in other cases I didn't really liked the instruments used. I listened to this one in bluemsx and I assume the same emulator bugs like in openmsx occur here as well, so perhaps some of my gripes are just caused by this.

In the manual there is a mention of new songs written especially for this project. Since I am not too familiar with the MSX demo scene, I can't really find out which songs are new and which ones are old. Will this be revealed later or is there some secret menu in the song disks that lists them?

Par giangiacomo.zaffini

Champion (267)

22-07-2015, 17:32

I'm one of those who will test a brand new FM Blaster from Eric with these tunes, weekend here we come ...

Par syn

Paragon (1920)

22-07-2015, 17:34

im too lazy to hook up my msx again

Par Latok

msx guru (3685)

22-07-2015, 17:34

edoz wrote:

Latok wrote:

Still, the README.pdf assumes most people will experience DMV in an emulator. Only 'die hard MSX guys' will use a real MSX with a real Moonsound.

Is that so ? :) I use the real machine more then the emulator :-)

Hey, just quoting the README.pdf :)

Anyway, I've been enjoying the tunes for the whole afternoon now. Awesome! Nice menus as well. Love it :)

Par snout

Ascended (15187)

22-07-2015, 17:52

Awesome release. Big thumbs up!!!

Par Meits

Scribe (5535)

22-07-2015, 18:18

To find out which tunes are new, you could always load them in MBWAVE (there's just a few tunes anyway )

This project inspired one of the "old guys" to be active. Emphasys member Master of Audio did the graphics crunching/decrunching, hi speed text print, smooth selector bar movement AND fade routines in one single BIN file per graphic. He also wrote a new tune especially for this project. He found some time in the pauses he had while coding for Terraria.

Par Manuel

Ascended (15750)

22-07-2015, 19:46

I'd also appreciate a full track listing (like on a CD album) with info on whether it's new/unreleased and the author of course. And for instance where it was released before.

Par Meits

Scribe (5535)

22-07-2015, 20:07

That's quite a request and will take quite some time...

Par Meits

Scribe (5535)

22-07-2015, 20:54

Just after the, as it turned out to be, premature release of one day earlier there was this one quote on IRC:

Quote:

after carefully checking and testing, now is the moment of horror... bug reports...

Par snout

Ascended (15187)

22-07-2015, 22:11

Enjoying the live stream quite a bit!

Par syn

Paragon (1920)

22-07-2015, 22:22

lol totally forgot abou tit

Par snout

Ascended (15187)

22-07-2015, 22:28

It's not too late yet!

Par riquet

Master (166)

22-07-2015, 23:24

Really fantastic, thanks a lot

Par mars2000you

Enlighted (5512)

22-07-2015, 23:25

Impressive release, the perfect musical monument for nights in the best ever made MSX atmosphere : MoonSound !

Par Jorito

Mr. Ambassadors (1761)

23-07-2015, 00:05

That was an epic live stream and chat to celebrate this epic release. Well done chaps, very enjoyable!

Par black hawk

Expert (82)

23-07-2015, 00:57

DMV is a great summer surprise. Thank you so much guys for your hard working and releasing such epic music discs. Sometimes there are moments where you feel that MSX is alive. DMV is one of the rare moments.

Par -Neo-

Champion (380)

23-07-2015, 18:09

Listening to it now and just 1 simple word: Fantastic!!!!!

Thank you guys!

Par mesiasmsx

Prophet (3163)

23-07-2015, 22:12

Amazing!

Thanks!!!!!!

Par Randam

Paladin (916)

23-07-2015, 22:46

Awesome awesomeness!!!! I have no words to express how much I love this release and appreciate all of your work!

Par MSX4ever

Master (176)

24-07-2015, 11:07

Great work and thanks for the entire set.

Par doraemonppc

Master (245)

24-07-2015, 11:46

I will test it his weekend.
A lot of time sice I've used the moonsound.
Thanks for your work

Par SkyeWelse

Champion (470)

26-07-2015, 00:51

Can't wait to give this a spin once I get my Moonsound in! Thank you all for putting this together!

-Thomas

Par Robosoft

Resident (57)

27-07-2015, 12:23

Fired up my Turbo-R and started the Nowind app on my pc.
Inserted the DMVFT image and had a great time listening to al those great moosound tunes.
Works like a charm!
Thank you guys for al the hard work!

Par francisco.moralesurena

Supporter (7)

27-07-2015, 12:40

Great work,thanks,thanks

Par Meits

Scribe (5535)

27-07-2015, 19:58

I'm very happy to read the appreciation for the work all those guys did...

Par turbor

Champion (426)

27-07-2015, 20:25

I finally got some time this week-end to download the bundle and listen to all these great tunes. It put me right back in the 90s, those good old days of all those music disk releases.
My utmost thanks to all those Moonsound veterans for this great release.

Par rvanzon

Supporter (15)

29-07-2015, 11:22

does anyone know why in CocoaMSX I get "No OPL4 compatible cartridge found"? Moonsound looks supported.

Par Omega

Master (213)

29-07-2015, 14:04

well, I assume you've checked the basics, i.e. installed the moonsound rom in your emulator etc.?

Par mars2000you

Enlighted (5512)

29-07-2015, 15:15

rvanzon : use one of the generic MSX2/2+/turboR boosted machines, MoonSound rom is included in all these machines, with exception for the MSX2 - Only PSG machine.

Par rvanzon

Supporter (15)

29-07-2015, 16:39

@Omega @mars2000you Actually I figured it out right after posting a the comment, I didn't insert Moonsound as I assumed it was automatically configured with the machine. My comment didn't appear here right away, so I assumed it wasn't posted...ok well, it was, I see now ;-) But thanks!

Par Omega

Master (213)

29-07-2015, 16:49

@mars2000you is that Floor Jansen as your avatar pic? Great!

Par mars2000you

Enlighted (5512)

29-07-2015, 16:55

Omega : Indeed ! Symphonic gothic-metal is one of my favorites styles of rock music, Nightwish is the best band in this style and is even better since the arrival of Floor Jansen, the most talentuous female singer (I like also After Forever and Revamp of course).

Par Omega

Master (213)

29-07-2015, 17:35

mars : I've seen her live on some occasions, doing grunts in Revamp and all, such a talented singer Planning to go to Nightwish concert in Amsterdam this fall. I can also recommend dutch bands like Delain and Stream of Passion you'll probably know as well.

Par mars2000you

Enlighted (5512)

29-07-2015, 17:46

Of course, I know them. I like especially Delain, it's something between Within Temptation and Nightwish, I guess you know what I mean

There is also Epica, a sort of sequel to After Forever first period. In another style (more electronic) : Nemesea (the first album was in the After Forever style).

Par Omega

Master (213)

29-07-2015, 18:26

I'm less an Epica fan because the (mostly) more classic opera style of singing there. I like there riffs though, good to drive car on that There's also Autumn but only the older albums (witches style) i dont like the new ones.

But hey we're getting a bit off topic here

Par mars2000you

Enlighted (5512)

29-07-2015, 18:42

There are so many good Dutch bands. I could have citated Asrai or The Nits.

To go back to MSX and MoonSound, there's a good way : Alto by Near Dark with impressive metal covers, especially from The Gathering !!!

Par Meits

Scribe (5535)

29-07-2015, 19:13

That's 18 years ago

Par syn

Paragon (1920)

29-07-2015, 19:22

pffffff metal

we need more tb303 on msx

Par anonymous

incognito ergo sum (109)

29-07-2015, 20:16

mars2000you wrote:

There are so many good Dutch bands. I could have citated Asrai or The Nits.

Funny that you mention Asrai. I used to see those guys (/girls) practically every week, as they used the rehearsal rooms at the same days as we did.

Par mars2000you

Enlighted (5512)

29-07-2015, 21:03

Quote:

Funny that you mention Asrai. I used to see those guys (/girls) practically every week, as they used the rehearsal rooms at the same days as we did.

It's my Siouxsie side

Par Wild_Penguin

Hero (546)

17-02-2016, 19:29

Hi, can't wait to test this!

I'm having a slight technical problem here. I'm trrying to mount the HD-disk image in Linux to move the files onto an SDcard for my MegaFlashRomSCCSD+. If I mount the disk image in Linux, it will write something on it (md5sum changes, haven't done a diff yet) and can not display the files in the subdirectories (dmv1, dmv2, dmv3). Maybe I'm trying to move this to test on my real MSX some convoluted way =D

I think I have mounted some MSX HD images previously, but it seems that a modern Linux kernel FAT drivers have some issues with this FAT16 image . That or there's something funny (non-standard) with the image. It does work in OpenMSX however!

Has anyone else mounted this image in Linux without issues?

EDIT: OpenMSX discmanipulator to the rescue, I'm listening full steam right now on my NMS8255!

Par Omega

Master (213)

17-02-2016, 20:32

hi Wild_Penguin,

The HD disk image is to be used inside an MSX emulator. It is MSX formatted, FAT12 and frankly, I'm surprised you can mount it in Linux at all

Glad you managed to get it to your MSX

regards,
Omega

Par Wild_Penguin

Hero (546)

17-02-2016, 21:18

Hi Omega!

The whole point was, I want to use the files on a real MSX instead of an emulator (also to test my new FM Blaster cart, which seems to be working btw), I just needed to transfer the files somehow! This I managed with the help of the said OpenMSX discmanipulator command . So problem solved. I could always have used the 3 disk images, but I also wanted to try the full steam section on my new cart...

[OT]
Linux is quite powerfull, it has support for all kinds of file systems! Think of Linux as having a kind of Daemon Tools integrated into it, except that this tool is about ten times more powerfull as Daemon Tools . Disk image or a real device, it makes no difference in the end on Linux (well, handling full disk images with partition table as opposed to a single partition image is a little bit more complicated, but still doable ... oh and for example CD images with audio tracks (CUE/BIN/WAV) need some additiolan FOSS).

I think here we have a 32MB fat16 image? Curiously Linux (file command) reports it as FAT12, but I think you can not have >16MB fat12 partitions? I tried to force mount it as fat16, but that made no difference in accessing the sub dirs. Also, fsck.msdos reports: Filesystem has 4093 clusters but only space for 3070 FAT entries.This is the first FAT file system image I've come across I've had trouble mounting in Linux. I have even created a HD images in OpenMSX, and have moved files back and forth by mounting in Linux without any issues, for example (but not while openMSX is running, just to be on the safe side).
[/OT]

Par Grauw

Ascended (8452)

17-02-2016, 21:53

Wild_Penguin: You don’t need to deal with the disk image, that’s just for convenient use in emulators. The archive also contains a DMVFT.zip with the loose files, which you can just extract to an SD card.

(Also, max size for FAT12 partitions is 32M, though maybe MSX-DOS1 can only deal with 16M.)

Par Meits

Scribe (5535)

17-02-2016, 22:09

Always nice to see this product being "trending" again, but as Grauw said, there's a ZIP for this exact purpose. The HD image is just there because of the use in emulators. And just because there seem to be quite some of them. The music is best played on a real MSX as some of the tunes go bad in emulators.

Par Wild_Penguin

Hero (546)

17-02-2016, 22:31

Grauw wrote:

I can't believe how I missed that
Now that you mention I've found the zip file. It's also in the readme. Although I already messed around with the image files, Thanks!

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