MFR vs Carnivore2 vs GR8Net vs FlashJacks ... Any vs between them?

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Par djh1697

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25-10-2018, 15:14

The comparison should also state the availability of the hardware, Flashjack states it is unavailable, as is the Carnivore2. I know someone who is awaiting a C2 to be made. I use a C2 (loaned!) and a MFRSCC+SD, in my opinion they both do there jobs very well. The C2 will allow you to load a number of ROM images into the flash memory, however, the speed of storage negates this advantage.

Par Eugeny_Brychkov

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25-10-2018, 15:28

djh1697 wrote:

The comparison should also state the availability of the hardware

7 boards of GR8NET are still available from the last batch.

Par Wolverine_nl

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25-10-2018, 16:04

To be honest, to play ROM images, like a Konami ROM, I always use the MFRSCC+SD. For other things I use the C2 and for development I use GR8NET.

The GR8NET, simply to test almost realtime what I compiled/assembled on my PC. With SofaFTP I mirror the release folder from my server and can immediatly see the result by using a batch file which handles the ftp and the start of the .com file Smile
So I think it also depends on what you are planning on using it for. Before GR8NET I used Nowind V2, a USB connection between pc and MSX, for the same thing actually. Downside with the Nowind was I opened the shared image on a pc, which was read/write, but on the MSX it was read only, unless I didn't open it first on the PC, then it was the other way around. Plus no sound chip emulation etc.

My favourite is the GR8NET overall. But for hardcore gamesessions I use the C2 or MFRSCC+SD, depending on what game.

Par Alexey

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25-10-2018, 16:50

djh1697 wrote:

The C2 will allow you to load a number of ROM images into the flash memory, however, the speed of storage negates this advantage.

What do you mean by "the speed of storage"?

Par karloch

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25-10-2018, 18:55

For me the GR8NET is the overall most powerful option. It has support for most of the MSX sound chips, outstanding networking capabilities like the full color ANSI TELNET client, the ability to write your own networking utilities from MSX-BASIC, UNIAPI compatibility, the GR8cloud server, running ROMs from Internet and a quite large etc... If you like networking with your MSX, GR8NET is the way to go.

I have been also a MFR SCC+ SD user for many years, and at least mine play really nice along with GR8NET. So my MSX has MFR in slot 1 and GR8NET in slot 2.

Par Wolverine_nl

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25-10-2018, 20:10

karloch wrote:

I have been also a MFR SCC+ SD user for many years, and at least mine play really nice along with GR8NET. So my MSX has MFR in slot 1 and GR8NET in slot 2.

I do the same, then I can flash games in the MFR, but I only use the SD storage of one of them, mostly the GR8NET.

Par djh1697

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25-10-2018, 21:21

Alexey wrote:
djh1697 wrote:

The C2 will allow you to load a number of ROM images into the flash memory, however, the speed of storage negates this advantage.

What do you mean by "the speed of storage"?

A CF card/SD card loads a ROM in a matter of seconds, the flashed ROM is loaded instantly. It used to take a lot longer from a floppy disk, and even longer from cassette?

Par Alexey

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25-10-2018, 21:45

djh1697 wrote:

A CF card/SD card loads a ROM in a matter of seconds, the flashed ROM is loaded instantly. It used to take a lot longer from a floppy disk, and even longer from cassette?

Sure, but how does this disable the advantage? You can load up to 128 different ROMS into the flash chip and start them instantly from the menu. Loading ROMs into the flash chip from a card takes time, but usually it's a matter of seconds. Loading into shadow ram is even faster. I don't get your point...

Par djh1697

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26-10-2018, 12:18

Loading a cracked ROM from cassette tape could take 10 mins or more, that is where i am comparing speed.

Par Wolverine_nl

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26-10-2018, 13:58

djh1697 wrote:

Loading a cracked ROM from cassette tape could take 10 mins or more, that is where i am comparing speed.

Ah, ok, I was reading your first message wrong, I thought it said that the C2 was very slow, as it negates this advantage, but C2 is fast, so maybe something is wrong at your end? Smile

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