MSXdev’20: #18 – Freedom Fighter

Par geijoenr

Master (190)

31-07-2020, 18:10

There appears to be some problem with the ROM. I am not able to run it with openmsx trying different machines.

Par tfh

Prophet (2606)

31-07-2020, 22:40

geijoenr wrote:

There appears to be some problem with the ROM. I am not able to run it with openmsx trying different machines.

You need to disable the drives
Or just play it online: https://www.file-hunter.com/MSXdev/index.php?id=freedomfighter

Par J.M.F

Resident (53)

31-07-2020, 22:41

In the BlueMsx I have not gotten it to work either.

Par tfh

Prophet (2606)

31-07-2020, 23:42

ASCII16 mapper, no disk-rom!

Par gdx

Prophet (3907)

01-08-2020, 16:09

The v1.1 works on which MSX?

Par J.M.F

Resident (53)

01-08-2020, 22:52

I have tried it with the Megaflashrom with the Ascii 16 mapper and it does not work.

Par DaikuMaryuGaiking

Expert (109)

01-08-2020, 23:40

J.M.F wrote:

I have tried it with the Megaflashrom with the Ascii 16 mapper and it does not work.

Are You using OPFXSD or other?

Par J.M.F

Resident (53)

03-08-2020, 14:51

I have the Megaflashrom without SD and I use opfx * .rom / A16.

Par ray2day

Hero (593)

03-08-2020, 17:55

Quote:

I have tried it with the Megaflashrom with the Ascii 16 mapper and it does not work.

No problems here on my Philips NMS 8245 MSX2 using MegaFlash ROM SCC+ 2 slots SD. Freedom Fighter v1.1.

You used the ASCII16 (/A16) option, but did you disabled the subslot (/U) also? So;
OPFXSD FILENAME.ROM /A16 /U

Par J.M.F

Resident (53)

04-08-2020, 13:01

In the Megaflshrom SCC + the OPFX program is used, not the OPFXSD. The / U option does not exist in the manual but I have also tried it and logically it has not worked.

Par gdx

Prophet (3907)

04-08-2020, 13:54

Replace the byte 20h by 18h at 00065h and Freedom Fighter will work. (v1.1 and v1.2 ok)

Par J.M.F

Resident (53)

04-08-2020, 17:45

Hello, my programming knowledge is null. If you could provide the ROM I would appreciate it.

Par gdx

Prophet (3907)

05-08-2020, 02:54

No need to be a programmer to do this. Open the Rom file with a hexa-editor, replace the byte and save it with a new name.

Par J.M.F

Resident (53)

05-08-2020, 12:45

I've already done it and it works. Thank you very much.

Par thegeps

Hero (634)

07-08-2020, 18:24

Hey Gdx thanks for your contribute! It helps me to find the real bug! I forgot to upate a label after a code modify. Your fix simply force to set a game variable to play music every frame (so music will be accelerated on ntsc machines) skipping the "set variable to ntsc" part and subsequent relative jump (where the fault was). The bug itself caused to skip a (little) part of code (just the screen2 setting) BUT the real problem was that it didn't set bank 6 of megarom (necessary to play the intro sequence) crashing the game.
Just fixed it and soon I'll upload to File Hunter.
Thank a lot again (I couldn't noticed without your fast fix) because I haven't a ntsc machines and I tested the game on ntsc machines time ago (when I implement the pal/ntsc music fix) and haven't do it again after some code changes (all my fault).

Par hamlet

Scribe (3406)

07-08-2020, 18:29

Great teamwork, community! Thanks for fixing so quick, thegeps!

Par thegeps

Hero (634)

07-08-2020, 18:32

Anyway, If possible try to set your machines on pal because there is more time to do stuff in a frame (and Freedom Fighter does a lot of stuff). On Ntsc machines it runs a little slower than on Pal ones. And due to the fact that the bios is still there and it uses the original ISR msx2 and higher machines have (in addition) more stuff to do in ISR too.

Par thegeps

Hero (634)

07-08-2020, 18:34

I think I'll upload the fix this evening (trying to make the game easier too)

Par tfh

Prophet (2606)

07-08-2020, 20:59

Play Freedom Fighter v1.3
Download Freedom Fighter v1.3

Par gdx

Prophet (3907)

08-08-2020, 14:10

Thanks for the update.

I drew a ship based on the other one that you don't want but I'm proposing it anyway because it's quite different now.

The cockpit glass is blue so i drew a sprite that matches. I think there is no problem if they are placed as follows.

Otherwise the cockpit glass can be red on the sprite. I wouldn't be upset if you don't use it. You warned me and I didn't spend a lot of time doing it.

Par thegeps

Hero (634)

09-08-2020, 00:57

I use only 2 sprites, so cockpit has to be red. I did it red in the title screen too so it is coherent with sprite's colors. Ship's shape too follow the same direction: sprite design is the guideline to ship draw on title screen. And it is inclined, not exactly front view. I still have to check if your ship fit the room available (I'm really busy on my real job, and pre-vacation days are always fullest ones). I prefere to focus on playability (and eventually on bugs) at this moment. But you are free to show me your tries. If one of them will merge my work you will be obviously credited. I'm not against other gfx (a lot of people are better than me doing gfx). It was all about way and cause...

Par DaikuMaryuGaiking

Expert (109)

09-08-2020, 03:30

gdx wrote:

I drew a ship based on the other one that you don't want but I'm proposing it anyway because it's quite different now.

In the end, based on my design, something can be done!

Par thegeps

Hero (634)

09-08-2020, 08:23

Nope

Par gdx

Prophet (3907)

09-08-2020, 09:43

You can change the colors as you want but the cockpit in red is less realistic and a little sad in color.

It's a shame to limit yourself to the constraints of sprites to make a presentation image. I think it's better to make some compromises.

About sprite, I have it quickly yesterday but to be more coherent with the presentation image, it is better to bring the boosters together as follows.

It's not a very awkward to leave the cockpit in red here.

thegeps wrote:

If one of them will merge my work you will be obviously credited.

You can reduce the tiles number at the screen center area by lowering the vessel by 8 lines.

No need to credited me.

DaikuMaryuGaiking wrote:

In the end, based on my design, something can be done!

I suspected you couldn't resist intervening uselessly. There it's done. You can be proud.

Par DaikuMaryuGaiking

Expert (109)

09-08-2020, 11:12

Admin, why my image is erased?

Par hamlet

Scribe (3406)

09-08-2020, 11:15

User, I can’t see there has been an image.

Par DaikuMaryuGaiking

Expert (109)

09-08-2020, 11:23

Quote:

I suspected you couldn't resist intervening uselessly. There it's done. You can be proud.

hamlet wrote:

User, I can’t see there has been an image.

Now is here, if you don't see, someone has erased:

Even if my image is modified, it is understood that it is that.
The real satisfaction and not sarcastic instead there is, because you are hypothesizing its use and since my drawing is free you can do what you want, so everyone knows who the original author is. ;)
But in any case, if my drawing, even an elaborate one, could replace the current one, it would be better. The fact that you are working on it is an objective fact and not my whim. ;)

Par hamlet

Scribe (3406)

09-08-2020, 11:21

And please stop interrupting here, it seems your help is not wanted in this case. Don't argue, man. I'm going to kick you out if this doesn't stop.

Par DaikuMaryuGaiking

Expert (109)

09-08-2020, 11:24

hamlet wrote:

And please stop interrupting here, it seems your help is not wanted in this case. Don't argue, man. I'm going to kick you out if this doesn't stop.

ok sir

Par Grauw

Ascended (9487)

09-08-2020, 11:44

gdx, imo your image is still clearly a derived work despite your alterations. You must have express permission of the original author and agree on license terms. Otherwise, although I like it, I would recommend to draw an original image.

Par thegeps

Hero (634)

09-08-2020, 12:02

thegeps wrote:

I still have to check if your ship fit the room available.

Answering to a previous discussion (in the thread that is temporarily blocked) about the number of tiles involved. Gdx was showing me that number of tiles can be lowered modifying the pic. Nothing more. Not related to this specific image

thegeps wrote:

But you are free to show me your tries. If one of them will merge my work you will be obviously credited.

Read again: your tries. Not this one. Several. gdx can draw and show me a lot of images. Then, if one of them will satisfy my taste and it will be doable, it will merge my work.

And now focus on this:
I'll never use something that could be related to you. Your efforts in this direction are useless...
I hope it is clear enough

Par gdx

Prophet (3907)

09-08-2020, 12:43

I removed the DaikuMaryuGaiking work.

Par DaikuMaryuGaiking

Expert (109)

09-08-2020, 13:42

gdx wrote:

I removed the DaikuMaryuGaiking work.

If you say so...! :)
It is always a derivative of my work. So thank you. :)
Something original about your hands? :)

Par gdx

Prophet (3907)

09-08-2020, 14:55

If it makes you happy to believe that, good for you.

PS: I have my best to get your creations accepted but you cannot understand that. The same goes for the fact that thegeps doesn't want anything from you anymore. Now you have to face the facts, your job will never be in Freedom Fighter, and I no longer find that a shame.

Par Parsec_99

Ambassador (0)

09-08-2020, 15:11

gdx wrote:

If it makes you happy to believe that, good for you.

PS: I have my best to get your creations accepted but you cannot understand that. The same goes for the fact that thegeps doesn't want anything from you anymore. Now you have to face the facts, your job will never be in Freedom Fighter, and I no longer find that a shame.

If you read some previous comments, I said that I am very happy if my idea is used, that the drawing is free and can be used as you wish. You say I don't understand then, you say you removed my work.
It is you, who did not understand that I am happy that my idea is taken into consideration and make the project better, even if my help is not appreciated.

Par DaikuMaryuGaiking

Expert (109)

09-08-2020, 15:13

gdx wrote:

If it makes you happy to believe that, good for you.

PS: I have my best to get your creations accepted but you cannot understand that. The same goes for the fact that thegeps doesn't want anything from you anymore. Now you have to face the facts, your job will never be in Freedom Fighter, and I no longer find that a shame.

If you read some previous comments, I said that I am very happy if my idea is used, that the drawing is free and can be used as you wish. You say I don't understand then, you say you removed my work.
It is you, who did not understand that I am happy that my idea is taken into consideration and make the project better, even if my help is not appreciated.

Par hamlet

Scribe (3406)

09-08-2020, 15:21

I am tired.

Par hamlet

Scribe (3406)

09-08-2020, 15:30

Both of you may come back after my holiday. I‘m tired monitoring this for the moment.

Par hamlet

Scribe (3406)

09-08-2020, 15:35

The previous thread is re opened.
https://www.msx.org/forum/msx-talk/development/freedom-fight...

Par gdx

Prophet (3907)

09-08-2020, 15:42

Quote:

If you say so...!
It is always a derivative of my work. So thank you.
Something original about your hands?

This sounded mocking to me. Sorry if it wasn't.

Par tfh

Prophet (2606)

09-08-2020, 17:09

Play Freedom Fighter v1.4
Download Freedom Fighter v1.4

Par thegeps

Hero (634)

10-08-2020, 19:35

V1.5 Ready. It will be updated later on File-Hunter
Fixed a bug (you can read more about it here:
https://www.msx.org/forum/msx-talk/development/freedom-fight...

Added variable enemies fire rate, so they will fire less in the beginning. Wait for tfh link and enjoy!

Par cbsfox

Champion (356)

11-08-2020, 05:12

Great game. Congratulations!
One of the best ever!

Par thegeps

Hero (634)

11-08-2020, 09:42

Thank you! Still improving it!

Par JohnHassink

Ambassador (5483)

11-08-2020, 10:11

With v1.4, on the second try, it still crashes at the 3rd stage boss.

Par thegeps

Hero (634)

11-08-2020, 16:57

Have you tried v1.5?

Par thegeps

Hero (634)

11-08-2020, 17:01

Can you explain how it crashes? Game freezes? Are you using cheats or it happens in normal mode? Anyway I'll check it later

Par thegeps

Hero (634)

11-08-2020, 17:03

third stage boss you mean Moon level end boss? Please, try to explain exactly. You can send me a mail through profile

Par JohnHassink

Ambassador (5483)

11-08-2020, 19:46

thegeps wrote:

Can you explain how it crashes? Game freezes? Are you using cheats or it happens in normal mode? Anyway I'll check it later

Yes, everything freezes but the music.
Using an in-game cheat code for invincibility.

Par thegeps

Hero (634)

11-08-2020, 20:37

so you played the game 2 times, both using cheats or first time normal and second time cheats? (just trying to guess what could be happen, so I can try to do the same). It freezes before boss, during boss or after killing the boss?

Par thegeps

Hero (634)

11-08-2020, 20:42

and please, let me know if you used also some other codes before cheats (music test and/or ship select)

Par thegeps

Hero (634)

11-08-2020, 21:08

I'm sorry to bother you... let me know also if you have killed some enemies (or almost all) in level 3 (and previous) or if you let the game go on bu itself just to see the whole scenario (asking because I found a mismatch from hardcoded level 3 enemies number and effective enemies number from eventlist, and both values are used from hit ratio calculation at the end of the level)

Par JohnHassink

Ambassador (5483)

11-08-2020, 23:14

First time was without using the cheat code, cheating my way with openMSX.
Second time, it was through WebMSX on tfh's (fantastic) site, using an in-game cheat code.
On both occasions, the boss is about to do some stuff, but the game will hang.
And yes, I shot down some enemies here and there during the stage.

Par thegeps

Hero (634)

11-08-2020, 23:26

Mmm... intries it 6/7 times on openmsx this evening (v1.5). I did 3 plays without cheat (but setting lives nr to 9 before assembling to grant longer playtime). Then actibated the cheats and played it till the end. Tomorrow I'll try using webmsx on File-Hunter site. But it can be related with code I've modified for v1.5
Infact I changed some bosses code (as you read there was a bug). Just ankther question:
The boss completed is pattern and restarted or it hangs before complete the pattern?

Par thegeps

Hero (634)

13-08-2020, 16:45

Found it and fixed! It was an error on pattern execution timing. If you don't kill boss before the first "pattern lap" is ended than on "second lap" the game freezes...
This happens because patterns are treated as temporized events (like enemies ordes are). I put a one unit lesser value on last pattern movement (the one that bring up again the horizontal laser sources immediately under the Tank). So the second lap they start one row down and at the end of the pattern that has to bring them to the bottom they are pushed one row out of the screen. Well the drawing routine put values on a buffer in ram and after that buffer starts my variable area. So they mess up first byte of first variable (just the low byte address of the origin of scrolling data...) and 32th byte of variable area... just because I wrote 170 instead of 171! (I didn't noticed because when testing in cheatmode I've always killed the boss BEFORE the pattern lap ended. Again, my fault).
I sent new version (1.6) as usual to File-Hunter, so you can try it soon. Have fun!

Par tfh

Prophet (2606)

13-08-2020, 19:41

Play Freedom Fighter v1.6
Download Freedom Fighter v1.6

Par thegeps

Hero (634)

15-08-2020, 18:50

version 1.7 is ready (tfh will update it in few minutes)
added:
player spaceship explosion before respawn
a "stop right there" pattern to mid level 2 boss (so no more surprise attack as soon as appeared) and lowered its HP
fixed playability (I was able to reach level3 without using cheats, so...)

have fun!

Par tfh

Prophet (2606)

15-08-2020, 18:53

Already updated Playable on the same links as before Just Shift-F5 if you get the old one.

Par tfh

Prophet (2606)

22-08-2020, 21:38

Freedom Fighter v1.8 is available:

* Explosions for the end-level bosses
* Fixed keyword scan routine
* GDX Request: Fire Button Release required to skip demo parts

Play Freedom Fighter v1.8
Download Freedom Fighter v1.8 (and other MSXDev Entries)

Par thegeps

Hero (634)

23-08-2020, 00:36

thank you for sharing, my friend!

Par thegeps

Hero (634)

02-09-2020, 20:37

Freedom Fighter is now updated to V1.9

Added:
New sprites and patterns (level 5 ones, it used level4 ones until now)
New 5th midlevel boss attack/movememt pattern (it uses first midlevel boss one, until now)
Fixed 4th midlevel boss attack/movement pattern (no sudden jerky left move once per pattern in the middle of the screen)

Fixed:
Until now, when skipping intro, if music was already started it restart from the beginning (ugly). Now if music is already started it continue smoothly...
Fixed a stack related bug on epilogue and a small music freeze when skipping epilogue by pressing fire...
Faster (and better) plotting/deleting routine for 4th endlevel boss (yes, each endlevel boss has its own plotting routine)

Stay tuned!

Play it here:

https://www.file-hunter.com/MSXdev/index.php?id=freedomfighter

Download it here:
https://download.file-hunter.com/Games/MSXdev/

Par thegeps

Hero (634)

11-11-2020, 08:56

Dear friends, I'm really happy to announce (thanks to File-Hunter.com experience and collaboration) the free availability on all Android devices (on emulated MSX ) of my game, Freedom Fighter. Download it from Playstore!

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.freedomfig...

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