Hydlide II english disk version

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By Sama

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27-07-2011, 16:44

For that reason, it hasn't been on sale in that form for about eight years now.

By RobertVroemisse

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27-07-2011, 16:49

So, if people make their OWN fan translation and decide to distribute it as a IPS patch it is legal to distribute?

By guantxip

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27-07-2011, 16:50

Ok, I understand.

By Sama

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27-07-2011, 16:59

@yum: Yes. An IPS patch contains alternative data which is 'patched on' the original software. Because copyright (in general) belongs to the person who created the work, the copyright of the patch also belongs to the person who created the data inside. In other words: if you make a translation, it's your decision whether or not you distribute it (as a patch or as something else).

Note, though, that in order to be able to claim copyright, your work has to be 'original' or 'genuine' enough. So if one would take someone else's translation and only change a couple of things - or if someone would make a translation in which the wording etc. is too close to an already existing translation, no new copyright will come into existence and the newly created work violates the copyright of the original translation as well.

I sure hope, though, that in the MSX scene we will never have a discussion about an issue like that. Let's just appreciate what another person makes and leave it to him if, how and when he wants to distribute it.

By snakepow

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27-07-2011, 17:10

For example, If I make a Nemesis 3 translation to Spanish, ¿ can I sell an original Nemesis 3 cartridge bundled with a disk version of the game translated to japanese, all made by me? Selling these 2 things together is legal, isn't it?

By Huey

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27-07-2011, 17:15

So the IPS in the link is an illegal IPS distribution of a translation that is not available any more?

By Sama

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27-07-2011, 17:15

I think that technically, that's not legal either (but we're getting quite deep in the matter now Smile). The copyright proprietor is not only the one who decides IF he wants to distribute his software, but also HOW he wants to do it. By distributing your translation on a disk version, you're also distributing a cracked (and thus easily distributable) version of the game. But I must admit that I'm not really sure about this. I would have to do some research, but I'm too lazy for that now Smile.

By Sama

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27-07-2011, 17:19

@Huey: it's an illegal IPS distribution of a translation that is not available at this moment, which does not imply that it will remain unavailable forever from now on Smile. And even if that were the case, it's not up to someone having a website with IPS patches to freely decide on his own about a work someone else created (unless there's some kind of license that says it's ok, of course, like a public declaration that the software is freeware, which is not the case here). Asking permission would be the first thing one would have to do, I reckon. Not only from a legal point of view, but also from a politeness' point of view Smile.

By snakepow

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27-07-2011, 17:29

I think also, this depends on each contry's law. This disk version we are talking about, can be more or less legal , illegal, but It's true it helps to piracy because the disk can be copied and runs the game without needing original cartridge. But it's the same that a MegaflashROM or a Playsoniq do.

Also I think if you want to play a Sega Master System game on MSX using Playsoniq, you must own the original Sega Cartridge game and also the Sega Master System videogame console.

By Huey

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27-07-2011, 17:35

Hope to see some sargon website updates in the future Wink

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