There will be only 5000 units to be sold?

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By Latok

msx guru (3867)

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18-07-2005, 17:08

well... if one has faith in its product, one should invest and not wait for a number of orders to come in... If this would've happened to MSX in 1983 / 1984, there wouldn't have been an MSX in the first place...ASCII probably reaches its break-even point when selling 5000 units at € 189,00 per device. It's perfectly understandable they want to make sure this project won't cost them money. And indeed, just as Manuel says, THAT's what it is all about. Every MSX lover should pre order the device and not wait until it comes on the market. Because if we all wait, the production won't even take place.

Unless ASCII is talking bullshit of course, just to scare us MSX-scene off and use these sentiments to sell shitloads of OCM's and get filthy rich Tongue

By Manuel

Ascended (18781)

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18-07-2005, 19:51

You can't compare this to the time of the first MSXes... Totally different market and goal.

By BiFi

Enlighted (4348)

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18-07-2005, 21:22

Latok:Every MSX lover should pre order the device and not wait until it comes on the market.
manuel:Totally different market and goal

ehrm... what to believe here? Smile

By POISONIC

Paladin (1012)

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19-07-2005, 06:29

wel they also sad that the 1chmsx would be limited.......... there even was a rumour that you would get it free with that msxa magazine Smile

By andete

Expert (97)

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19-07-2005, 09:52

Latok:Every MSX lover should pre order the device and not wait until it comes on the market.
manuel:Totally different market and goal

ehrm... what to believe here? Smile

Am I the only one who has trouble buying a programmable device where both the licensing and the upgrade for MSX2 is unclear?
The device is kewl, but it is not cheap. I need more detailed information before I want to spend the cash. I don't want to end up with an MSX1 only device; nor do I want to pay alot of money again for every upgrade.

I'm quite sure I'm not the only one who thinks like this.

This is much more important than fun marketing games like "name the new one chip msx".

Bazix, ASCII, if you want to sell more units, get these issues sorted out!

By Samor

Prophet (2147)

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19-07-2005, 12:34


Am I the only one who has trouble buying a programmable device where both the licensing and the upgrade for MSX2 is unclear?

no; as much as I like the idea, I'm still pondering wether to preorder or not.

By anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

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19-07-2005, 18:21

Am I the only one who has trouble buying a programmable device where both the licensing and the upgrade for MSX2 is unclear?
The device is kewl, but it is not cheap. I need more detailed information before I want to spend the cash. I don't want to end up with an MSX1 only device; nor do I want to pay alot of money again for every upgrade.

I'm quite sure I'm not the only one who thinks like this.

Bazix, ASCII, if you want to sell more units, get these issues sorted out!

I completely agree with you. I asked about this some time ago too, but we are still waiting for the answer. All this time to bring us an answer to a simple question like this make me think about 2 possibilities:

When don't get an answer because:

1) They believe we won't like the answer, and that will impact OCM sales.

In that case, the answer is that the code won't be released with a license like GPL or BSD. The upgrade to MSX2 will probably be paid.

2) The answer will depend on the number of pre-orders.

This option gives us at least some hope, but the problem remains: How many units must be sold so that the code will be released with a free license and the upgrade will be possible without a fee ?

Of course, I hope I am wrong about this.

By snout

Ascended (15187)

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19-07-2005, 19:10

Actually, FPGA has a great advantage when it comes to 'time to market'. Quite a lot of changes can be made relatively shortly before production is started. Once the casing and final specs are clear, more information will become available at Bazix.

By snout

Ascended (15187)

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19-07-2005, 19:15

As for the One Chip MSX being limited: I don't think a maximum of 10,000 One Chip MSX computers in a first batch can be considered as a limitation, it should be more than enough to get all die hard MSX users one, and to attract a few new MSX users in the process. Besides, I'm sure ASCII would not say no to a second batch, provided they can sell at least 5,000 OCMs once again.,

By Leo

Paragon (1236)

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30-07-2005, 17:17

I just put a pre order on for one chip , it really looks like a devlopement kit for FPGA which is customised with MSX connectors.

I wonder if the board is connectable to the PC and if a SDK would be delivered , so that one can reprogram the fpga . I wonder also if the VHDL source are part of the deliverable.

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