Metal Gear 2 secrets

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By Takamichi

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21-04-2019, 09:25

Maybe some of you might be aware already, I noticed there is a fantastic website telling lesser known facts about Metal Gear 2.
https://tcrf.net/Metal_Gear_2:_Solid_Snake

This is the only place you can know about "unused" texts in MG2. I knew their existence but never took much attention because they don't go along with the story. How come Kaz Miller had a daughter, to think of it now?
Also it's the only place that is aware the original "Czech" conversation was in fact Russian. I wish the editor also added that Marv asks Natasha about Seoul Olympic contestants in a totally out-of-place situation. :D

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By wimpie3

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21-04-2019, 09:44

I already had lots of info in my Konami book, but this page goes even further. Nice!

By sdsnatcher73

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21-04-2019, 12:12

Cool, I actually found the Wii game mentioned there (both original Japanese and English) and extracted it. It contains several apps and 1 has the 1.2 version of MG2 as MEGAROM.ROM as well as MSX2+ bios and kanji roms and a .DSK (for saving?). Still have to extract the ROM file (due to it being easter and I have other obligations)...

By Takamichi

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21-04-2019, 14:26

Interesting info, so this version really was an authentic MSX game?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3D4g7tStLU
I just saw this Wii version. I always thought some people like Holly in codec scene of the remakes have really white skin that looks too unnatural as MSX2 color so the Wii version was non-MSX which only looked like one but I have to change my mind. I have looked at remake portraits and realized their skin color is same with Pettrovich's and Big Boss's white beard.
I also noticed the dialogues seem to contain more kanjis than MSX version, if that's the case it means fonts were rewritten.
Whoever who hacked the original and modified it did a really neat job then.

By tfh

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21-04-2019, 15:23

sdsnatcher73 wrote:

Cool, I actually found the Wii game mentioned there (both original Japanese and English) and extracted it. It contains several apps and 1 has the 1.2 version of MG2 as MEGAROM.ROM as well as MSX2+ bios and kanji roms and a .DSK (for saving?). Still have to extract the ROM file (due to it being easter and I have other obligations)...

I just extracted the .ROM file of the English version from the Wii VC WAD and it's indeed running fine on WebMSX & OpenMSX. The file doesn't seem present in the MSX ROM Database, SHA-1: F9BC911AD3D1BC042FC18E74B1987A5D8464FB3E
And indeed as Takamichi mentions: The characters have been made extra white for some reason. The original (MSX2) version looks quite a lot better (in my opinion). I was considering adding the English Wii VC version to my site but I actually don't know why I should.

By sdsnatcher73

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21-04-2019, 15:18

Takamichi wrote:

Whoever who hacked the original and modified it did a really neat job then.

This was not a ‘hack’, as it is an official Konami release it was most likely just rebuilt from updated source code and images.

By OeiOeiVogeltje

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21-04-2019, 15:46

tfh wrote:
sdsnatcher73 wrote:

Cool, I actually found the Wii game mentioned there (both original Japanese and English) and extracted it. It contains several apps and 1 has the 1.2 version of MG2 as MEGAROM.ROM as well as MSX2+ bios and kanji roms and a .DSK (for saving?). Still have to extract the ROM file (due to it being easter and I have other obligations)...

I just extracted the .ROM file of the English version from the Wii VC WAD and it's indeed running fine on WebMSX & OpenMSX. The file doesn't seem present in the MSX ROM Database, SHA-1: F9BC911AD3D1BC042FC18E74B1987A5D8464FB3E
And indeed as Takamichi mentions: The characters have been made extra white for some reason. The original (MSX2) version looks quite a lot better (in my opinion). I was considering adding the English Wii VC version to my site but I actually don't know why I should.

link?
mail?

By tfh

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21-04-2019, 16:12

OeiOeiVogeltje wrote:

link?
mail?

Well, I can't do that here.
I've actually been asked (quite some time ago) to refrain from posting links to my site here, but in the meantime I see MSX.org admins doing it themselves, so I guess it's OK these days. So, you can go and play Wii VC version running in WebMSX here: https://www.file-hunter.com/MSX/index.php?id=solidsnakevc

And if it's not OK, I guess the link will be removed.

By KdL

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21-04-2019, 17:14

Yayyy! Smile

By Takamichi

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21-04-2019, 17:48

sdsnatcher73 wrote:
Takamichi wrote:

Whoever who hacked the original and modified it did a really neat job then.

This was not a ‘hack’, as it is an official Konami release it was most likely just rebuilt from updated source code and images.

If Konami really retained the sources from 1990 and called forth ex-developers who might have quit Konami (like Kojima has now) at the time of Wii VC release, I compliment Konami. However I myself can't find any article that states who did that job.

By Takamichi

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21-04-2019, 17:58

Thank you for the link! So this really can run on real MSX! Good to see the "Gator" cigarette graphic, yes the palette change caused the entire picture to be dimmed.

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