The Sorrow of Gadhlan'Thur

The Sorrow of Gadhlan'Thur

by ro on 10-07-2019, 13:20
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About a year ago, software house Kai Magazine announced the development of a new MSX2 RPG-action game called The Sorrow of Gadhlan'Thur. This week the company stated that development is finished and the game will be released shortly. It will be available on cartridge and, as a surprise, it comes with SCC hardware built in.

The game supports PSG and SCC musics using an external SCC cartridge. Toggle between SCC or PSG by holding down a key during startup. The earlier mentioned support for MSX-Music (FM-PAC and alike) was dropped in favor of SCC. According to Kai Magazine the raw sounding SCC fits better with the game. The best news is that the cartridges sold during pre-ordering can be fitted with an SCC chip for just a few dollars more. This limited special edition with integrated SCC will only be done once and is exclusive for those who made the pre-purchase, Clint won't mind.

If you haven't pre-ordered, here's another oppertunity. There's a chance for another batch of 25 cartridges to be sold, but it's without a built-in SCC unfortunately. The game on cartridge costs 42 euros + shipping. Check out this forum topic for more information about that.

relevant link: Forum Topic
relevant link: in game video teaser

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By Kai Magazine

Paragon (1283)

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10-07-2019, 13:40

I must make a correction and clarify this so people don't have false hopes:
"If you haven't pre-ordered, here's another oppertunity. There's a chance for another batch of 25 cartridges to be sold, and perhaps even with SCC build in."

No, those 25 available cartridges don't have SCC built in.
The SCC built in batch is for those who made the pre-puchase only.
There will be no more SCC built in batches, I can 100% assure you that.

By Sander

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10-07-2019, 14:27

Is it possible to add an SCC later, e.g. is it the same pcb?

By ro

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10-07-2019, 14:48

thanx Kai, changed text.

It would be more than uber cool to do another SCC included cart batch.. woohoo for SCC Smile

By Kai Magazine

Paragon (1283)

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10-07-2019, 15:11

Sander wrote:

Is it possible to add an SCC later, e.g. is it the same pcb?

I am very sorry but it's not possible. The boards are from different manufacturers and they dont have anything in common...

By Kai Magazine

Paragon (1283)

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10-07-2019, 15:09

ro wrote:

thanx Kai, changed text.

It would be more than uber cool to do another SCC included cart batch.. woohoo for SCC Smile

I know, but making the SCC batch exclusive for pre-purchasers is a way to thank them for their support and for the long, long wait they had to endure.
It would be very unfair to destroy that exclusivity by making a new batch in the fututre, so we can't do that.

Anyway, if the SCC cartridge manufacturer manages to create a new batch, we will make a new SCC exclusive game. A nemesis/gradius kind of game would be cool with scc, yes?

By hamlet

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10-07-2019, 16:27

Yes! Good news, man!

By Kai Magazine

Paragon (1283)

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10-07-2019, 22:30

By the way, I dunno who made that "Sorrow of Gadhlan' Thur" text on the main image of the newspost, but it looks freaking awesome!
I love it! Congrats!

By hamlet

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11-07-2019, 08:36

Nice to hear. Thanks.

By ToriHino

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11-07-2019, 16:31

I think a general appreciation is in order for the provided artwork next to the news items. So well done and thanks for the effort put in to it!

By Kai Magazine

Paragon (1283)

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11-07-2019, 18:52

Indeed!
Thank you Hampet, for your attention to detail and the love you put into what you do.

By hamlet

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12-07-2019, 06:40

Smile

By sd_snatcher

Prophet (3020)

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13-07-2019, 00:27

Thank you for yet another release, Kai! I made absolute question of preordering the game. And it will be the version with the integrated SCC too. Smile

And kudos for you again for another beautiful work on the announcement pictures, hamlet. You'll probably like to know that Wakachan told me he was very impressed with the composition you made to announce the MSX Pixel Art and Chiptune Preservation projects, as he saw that one of his images was there. He had been visiting as a ghost reader of MRC since then.

By [D-Tail]

Ascended (8232)

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14-07-2019, 08:29

Brilliant music and graphics. Gameplay looks really good too. Well done!

By Ivan

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19-07-2019, 18:15

Another excellent game from Kai Magazine.

Waiting for more video footage (and the game itself) of El Secreto de los Cuatro Vientos:

https://youtu.be/b2p6QVDWZ3I
https://youtu.be/G4FQ8ru9qaI

According to Kai Magazine the game will be huge (a lot more screens than Solid Snake or SD Snatcher).

By abonatto

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20-07-2019, 12:06

Dear Kai,

I've been far from MSX games for ages now, and I have to say I'm really impressed to discover such a fine game made in 2019 for it! Congrats! By the way, have you ever thought of porting it to, for example, Nintendo Switch? This console has strong retro game appeal, and it could give to your game a broader audience.

Cheers,

Alex

By Kai Magazine

Paragon (1283)

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20-07-2019, 22:52

Hi Alex,
Thank you very much for your kind words!
Just in case you didn't know, we made a whole bunch of games for MSX 2 over the years.
Please take a look here:

Kai Magazine Store

Porting to Swith is difficult since you need a reliable and powerful publisher, and our games are for a niche market.
Anyway if the oportunity arises, we will sure do!
We made a remake of one of our games for PC/Steam "Life on Mars Remake", feel free to look it up if you wish.

Thank you for your suggestions ;)

By Kai Magazine

Paragon (1283)

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20-07-2019, 22:54

Ivan wrote:

Another excellent game from Kai Magazine.

Waiting for more video footage (and the game itself) of El Secreto de los Cuatro Vientos:

https://youtu.be/b2p6QVDWZ3I
https://youtu.be/G4FQ8ru9qaI

According to Kai Magazine the game will be huge (a lot more screens than Solid Snake or SD Snatcher).

Hi Ivan,
Thank you for your interest on "The Secret of the Four Winds" project :)
There is plenty more footage and the game is far more advanced than what you can see on those videos, but for now we don't want to tease the public since the release of that game is still a bit far.

Kind regards:
Oscar Kenneth

By Kai Magazine

Paragon (1283)

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20-07-2019, 23:00

News about "The Sorrow of Gadhlan 'Thur:
The betatesting is over! (I belive/hope)
The betatesting has been REALLY complicated for this game.
Belive me, it's not the same to betatest an arcade game or to betatest a 10 hours long action RPG...
We have been working for 2 weeks non-stop.
If nothing new arises, tomorrow we will start sending the digital versions to those who ordered them (yes, I forgot to mention here that there is a digital version for 12 euro ^_^! ) and shipments will start in a few days.
I am very sorry for the delay...
Thank you very much everyone for your patience!

By Kai Magazine

Paragon (1283)

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21-07-2019, 18:53

We just started sending the digital versions.
We will finish sending them tomorrow.
Please don't forget to check your spam folders!

By shram86

Expert (88)

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22-07-2019, 11:30

The music and graphics are excellent. Really enjoyable so far.

By Kai Magazine

Paragon (1283)

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23-07-2019, 10:50

I am very happy to hear that you like it Smile

By fernando.collazo.5682

Master (237)

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23-07-2019, 20:18

I loves the Game!!!
Musics, graphics, playability etc everything is awesome.
Excellent work

By max_iwamoto

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24-07-2019, 03:28

Kai Magazine wrote:

We just started sending the digital versions.
We will finish sending them tomorrow.
Please don't forget to check your spam folders!

Hello!

Just checking if you sent all digital versions for pre-orders. Because I still don't have mine Crying

By Kai Magazine

Paragon (1283)

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24-07-2019, 14:49

Hi Max,
We sent all the digital versions to everyone who purchased the digital version.
If you purchased the digital version and you didn't receive the rom, please send me an email to:
kennethalbero@hotmail.com

Sometimes I have a very hard time telling who's nick belongs to which email/real name user, other times is just impossible unless the real user tells me via email...

By Kai Magazine

Paragon (1283)

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24-07-2019, 14:14

fernando.collazo.5682 wrote:

I loves the Game!!!
Musics, graphics, playability etc everything is awesome.
Excellent work

I am VERY happy to hear/read that!

By Gloriou

Expert (122)

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25-07-2019, 09:59

Anyone was able to run it on Carnivore?

By Kai Magazine

Paragon (1283)

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25-07-2019, 12:59

Hi Gloriou,
Is it a Carnivore 2?
To flash the game with Carnivore 2 you must download a particular config file from the manufacturer’s page (a file which starts with dsk2rom) and use the c2man to edit the rom’s entrance in order to force this config to be loaded when that rom is executed.
Please refer to the Carnivore2 user's manual to see how to do this exactly, since this involves several steps which are difficult to explain for me.

By Gloriou

Expert (122)

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25-07-2019, 18:05

Yes it is Carnivore2 and also I used c2man to load the Rom. But wasn't successful. Please advise

By Gloriou

Expert (122)

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25-07-2019, 18:16

Yessssss got it
Thanks, and sorry to bother you Smile

By hashem

Resident (47)

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27-07-2019, 12:53

excellent game....im stuck in the game..... i dont want to tell the details i will try to solve it

By hashem

Resident (47)

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27-07-2019, 12:59

Kai the desert very hard Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile

By Kai Magazine

Paragon (1283)

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27-07-2019, 13:45

Hi Hashem,
If the desert is still very hard for your character, try exploring other areas and picking up secret items which are not necessary in order to finish the game but will help a lot on combat-oriented areas such as the desert of the damned.
Take a look at the manual and look at the items/relics you can find.
The magical sword +3 and the defense ring will sure help a lot in the desert.
Carrying 60 knives or more will help too against those bloddy flying ghosts Wink

By hashem

Resident (47)

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27-07-2019, 13:53

i got the ring >>>>hard to get it u know what i mean Smile Smile >>>>my mind lost many places many areas you have to focus

By hashem

Resident (47)

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27-07-2019, 20:32

KAI.....now HP70 LEVEL30 DAGGER:70 AXE:25 4 KEYS .. 2 SWORD .. 2 POSION ,, DAGGER ,, AXE ,, BOOT ,,, JUMP ,, RING

NOW I WILL GO TO DESERT(HELL)

By Kai Magazine

Paragon (1283)

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27-07-2019, 20:43

I like your chances!
Please also consider that there is a big factor of skill, strategy and technique involved in the combat areas.
Try to evade as many enemies as you can, and eliminate the most uncontrollable ones as soon as possible.
You can enter an screen, take a quick peek at it, see where the enemies are located, exit the screen, mentally plan your moves, kill an enemy exit the screen, hit an enemy, exit the screen (enemy hp is not reseted by exiting the screen) so you can use a hugue amount of techniques and tricks, together with the character's skills in order to advance a difficult area.

By hashem

Resident (47)

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28-07-2019, 09:29

kai i finished the game Smile2 Smile2 Smile2 Smile2 Smile2 Smile2 Smile2

By Kai Magazine

Paragon (1283)

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28-07-2019, 11:24

Congratulations!
I hope you enjoyed it Wink

By Gloriou

Expert (122)

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28-07-2019, 13:39

Hashem is a stubborn gamer, lol and friend of mine Wink

By hashem

Resident (47)

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28-07-2019, 13:56

kai...in my opinion that best game you ever made,,,,,,i enjoyed too much.....

you have to focus too much in the areas and the places....many tricks oO Eek! Shocked! Sad

Gloriou.....hala balsadeeq m7d fahim klamna Smile Smile Smile

By hashem

Resident (47)

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28-07-2019, 13:59

i will not help any1 about the game,,,they must sufer as me BA-team BA-team BA-team

By Kai Magazine

Paragon (1283)

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28-07-2019, 23:38

I am very glad that you enjoyed the game so much regardless of the suffering Big smile

By hamlet

Scribe (2355)

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15-08-2019, 22:00

My cartridge arrived yesterday, thank you very much Oscar for this game.
It is the most addictive action RPG I played and doesn't have to hide behind previous titles. The graphics are absolute fantastic, the gameplay is smooth, the music is outstanding. What a sound, SCC at its best. I have to stop writing and go back to Gadhlan'Thur.
Thanks a lot!

By Kai Magazine

Paragon (1283)

Kai Magazine의 아바타

16-08-2019, 03:34

Thank you very much for your kind words about the game, Hamlet!
Regarding the game-play, I must thank all the beta-testers who have played it over and over and not only helped me solve bugs but also to polish and balance the gameplay with their expertise.
Regarding the music, all the credit is for John Hassink and Manuel Dopico.
I want to apologize to them because they had to suffer through my high demands and I squeezed them until I got what I wanted exactly.
I am very happy that this game is being liked so much for those who have played it. That really cheers me up!

By wyrdwad

Paladin (774)

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16-08-2019, 16:11

I'm really enjoying it too! But I'm surprised to see people mentioning having the Magical Sword +3 already -- I have all 5 keys and every other item in the manual, and thought I was being really thorough, but STILL haven't found the Magical Sword +3. I thought maybe it was hidden in the Desert of the Damned or the Statue of Gadhlan' Thur, so I've been trying to slowly work my way through both places, but to no avail: the green ghosts in particular always kick my ass!

Can anyone give a hint on where the Magical Sword +3 is found? Is it in the Desert of the Damned or Statue of Gadhlan' Thur, or is it in one of the other areas? I'm guessing by what you've said that it's in one of the other areas, but I can't imagine where -- I've looked EVERYWHERE!! May have to do a bit more digging...

-Tom

By wyrdwad

Paladin (774)

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16-08-2019, 17:59

Ooh, never mind! I decided to retrace my steps, and finally found it -- along with a very KAI-style secret item that's not listed in the manual! Sneaky, sneaky! Wink

This game is really awesome, though, to be sure. Great job as always, man! I'll have to concur with Hashem that this is your best game to date -- it reminds me a lot of the indie Windows game "Alwa's Awakening," which is a compliment I don't make lightly (as I absolutely adore that game!).

-Tom

By Kai Magazine

Paragon (1283)

Kai Magazine의 아바타

16-08-2019, 21:17

Thank you, Tom, I apreciate it a lot Wink

Edit: It's a pity you haven't played Life on earth (V9990), I consider it is quite better than The Sorrow of Gadhlan' Thur.

By wyrdwad

Paladin (774)

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17-08-2019, 03:05

Kai Magazine wrote:

Edit: It's a pity you haven't played Life on earth (V9990), I consider it is quite better than The Sorrow of Gadhlan' Thur.

One day, I'd like to, when I upgrade my MSX. And I anticipate I'll like it, but I don't think I'll like it more than Gadhlan' Thur, if only because the style of game is less appealing to me -- I've never been a huge fan of the Shinobi games, so the gameplay in Life On Earth doesn't appeal to me as much. It's too linear. Wink

-Tom

By wyrdwad

Paladin (774)

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17-08-2019, 07:34

Just beat Gadhlan' Thur, and I've gotta say... that's a hell of an ending, man! Nice job. Very creative and simple, but poignant!

-Tom

By dan

Resident (41)

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19-08-2019, 17:42

I got the cartridge this week. Many thanks Oscar and congratulations to the whole team! Very addicting game. Hopefully is holiday time. Not just an action RPG: you have to think carefully and ask yourself why this or that object is placed there. Many very good games came to my mind when I played it for the first time. Thanks!

By Kai Magazine

Paragon (1283)

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19-08-2019, 21:21

Thank you very much for sharing this with us, I am VERY happy that this game is being liked so much!

By Ivan

Ascended (9078)

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22-08-2019, 19:27

@Kai, I will buy for sure the cartridge version of The Sorrow of Gadhlan'Thur. The game has received a lot of praise and very good reviews. Will get it at the next users' meeting in Barcelona (or Badalona) if you attend it.

I hope you are progressing with El Secreto de los Cuatro Vientos, you told me that the game will be huge. It looks amazing with those graphics in screen 8 and 256 colours, visually it reminds me as if it were a game for SNES. Keep up the good work!

By Kai Magazine

Paragon (1283)

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23-08-2019, 15:05

Hi Ivan,
I will not be attending to Badalona meetings anymore (way too much piracy) and I am not sure I will attend to the next Barcelona meeting either (I didn't attend the last one). Seing how people sell games that aren't theirs and that they earn more money than a developer who spent hundreds or thousands of hours working on a new game is not something that I wish to see in person anymore, and every time there are more and more users and groups doing that.
So if you wish to get the game I suggest you hurry up, only 8 units left from the second batch and I have no idea if we will make more or when.

El Secreto de los Cuatro Vientos is progressing when I have some spare time. The project is very big and it will take a long time to finish, but it will be finished.

Thank you for your enthusiasm!

By Ivan

Ascended (9078)

Ivan의 아바타

23-08-2019, 19:40

@Kai, I am surprised about your statement about piracy, didn't know that nowadays there were people at those meetings with recent MSX software pirated. Do not worry, in my humble opinion the vast majority of MSX users are not interested in such software. For me blank floppy disks (and tapes) with pirated MSX software copied onto them worth absolutely nothing (what an anachronism!). My idea was to save some shipping costs, I will get the original game on cartridge by any mean! Smile

By Kai Magazine

Paragon (1283)

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23-08-2019, 23:31

Please note that what I exactly said is:
Seing how people sell games that aren't theirs and that they earn more money than a developer who spent hundreds or thousands of hours working on a new game is not something that I wish to see in person anymore, and every time there are more and more users and groups doing that.