Challenge poll down, SCC damage poll up

Challenge poll down, SCC damage poll up

by wolf_ on 04-08-2013, 10:28
Topic: Challenges
Tags: SCC
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The challenge poll has been running for a while now, but as 80 is a nice round figure, and as the results are equally round, it's time to close this one up. So, what kind of challenge do you favour?

  • A small challenge someone can do in a weekend - 60%
  • A large/team challenge - 40%

During the voting period these figures gradually moved towards what they're now, after the gap was much bigger even. Small challenges have their advantages: a fair chances that many would try to compete with entries that actually get finished. Larger challenges have the advantage that the harvest would be more interesting, a large demo or game generally makes a bigger and more long lasting impression than a picture, tune or small game. If MRC is to organize a new challenge, we'll certainly take the results of this poll into account.

The next poll could be about a myth or about reality. This old video shows (at the 1:10 mark) a host doing things, well, we've been quite afraid to do. And basically we had no reason to do so on a structural base (unless for dumping ROM games), until Konami's SCC hit the market. Cracked games would feature the original music if an SCC cartridge was inserted after the beep, into the right slot, and if the MSX had enough system memory. Most of us probably had an SCC switch installed, something that wouldn't have cost more than €5 during the 90's.

Myth or reality? We've been taught that brutally inserting a cartridge after the beep could damage the cartridge as well as the MSX. You've read it in magazines, you've heard about it at the local club (where there would always be a technician nearby), a switch was the thing to use. And the switch was certainly more convenient than inserting a cartridge in slot 2 of a Philips 8245. But regardless of that, the video from the 80's shows something rather brutal. Or is it? Have we been fooled all these years, and can an MSX actually live with cartridges being inserted with the power on? What are your experiences about this?

Relevant link: Poll results

Comments (3)

By RetroTechie

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15-08-2013, 18:35

TV presenter is an idiot, for not reading the warning labels *ON TOP OF THE MACHINES IN FRONT OF HIM*, not reading the manual, yada yada yada, but most of all: for showing his audience how NOT to do it (and thus perhaps, help his viewers kill their own machines).

Regardless of how big the chance that something gets damaged, inserting a cartridge while the MSX is powered on is stupid. It's both risky and unnecessary. When you do it anyway & nothing bad happens, you're lucky. That's all there is to it.

By tfh

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04-08-2016, 12:54

Well, I know it's an old post, but still Smile Smile
One of the machines he is doing this with is a Toshiba HX-10. This machine has a switch in the cartridge port, detecting insertion/removal of a cartridge and switching the power off/on to avoid getting into problems...

By Wild_Penguin

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04-08-2016, 17:41

tfh wrote:

Well, I know it's an old post, but still Smile Smile
One of the machines he is doing this with is a Toshiba HX-10. This machine has a switch in the cartridge port, detecting insertion/removal of a cartridge and switching the power off/on to avoid getting into problems...

Is that enough?

I mean, the pins on the insterted cartridge that allow the MSX to switch the power on again, might not be the last ones to make contact, as the pins on the cartridge are all of the same length? I'm not an electronician, but...

(btw. HX-10 is not the only one with this feature, at least FC-200 had it...)