MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD

MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD

by Jorito on 24-02-2013, 12:50
Topic: Hardware
Tags: MegaFlashROM, SD, SCC
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Manuel Pazos of MSX Cartridge Shop who we know from their Mega Flash ROM and their MSX game cartridges has announced a new product. The new MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD cartridge is a Konami-sized cartridge that combines a MegaFlashROM SCC+ with an SD cart reader with two micro SD slots. A preview of the product in action can be found here.

Here's an overview of all the features:

  • Two micro SD slots
  • Compatible with MMC, SD and SDHC cards
  • Supports hot card swap
  • Uses Nextor as disk operative system (native support for FAT12/16, BASIC commands to control units, partitions, etc...)
  • Maximum partition size of 4GB
  • ROM drive. The ROM drive enables you to put a diskimage into the flashrom. It will be mounted as an extra readonly drive. The ROM drive is always available (unless erased), even when any card is inserted. It can be used to boot from or store files that you use regularly.
  • FlashROM memory of 64Mbits (8MBytes)
  • MegaFlashROM SCC+ of 7MB (7000K): All the features of the previous version and more (except subslots simulation). Writting process four times faster It is possible to load and run up to 9 disk images (DSKs) MultiROMs up to 511 ROMs It is possible to clone the internal PSG sound using the external one.
  • Recovery mode: Install SD kernel directly from the SD card (you don't need other disk interface) Erase MegaFlashROM SCC+ content Erase SD interface kernel Erase ROM disk Show SD cards information
  • High speed transfer (read and write)
  • Konami sized cartridge.

The cartridge works as an slot expander, so it must be used on a primary slot. The MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD is expected to be available in 2 weeks from MSX Cartridge Shop for a price of around € 100,-.

Relevant link: MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD preview

Comments (235)

By mesiasmsx

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24-02-2013, 14:18

like +10000000!!!

By riquet

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24-02-2013, 14:59

Good news Smile

By max_iwamoto

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24-02-2013, 15:24

Woow. This is almost cover all possible options for a flash device.

By ray2day

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24-02-2013, 15:33

super!

By Meits

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24-02-2013, 16:03

Need it... Oei: Count me in Big smile

By djh1697

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24-02-2013, 16:39

Makes me want to get my MSX out and start using it again... All those fun games Wink

A great Cartridge, is it possible to offer it MSX-DOS 2? Will it work with an MSX1?

Lets just hope the Euro slides against the pound, would make an even better purchase Wink

By djh1697

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24-02-2013, 16:45

Another question....
Will it need to be used on an MSX with a DiskDrive? or DiskROM? or does it have the DiskRom/Daisk Basic built in?

By Guillian

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24-02-2013, 17:14

@djh1697: Nextor is a enhanced MSX-DOS 2. It wil work on MSX1 with 64K (MSX-DOS 1) or with 128K (Nextor/MSX-DOS2)
You don't need a disk drive on your computer, since Nextor kernel is in the cartridge.

By max_iwamoto

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24-02-2013, 17:20

@Guillian:

How many mapper pages used on MSX2 with Nextor?

By Meits

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24-02-2013, 17:25

Is DOS2 embedded?

By Colemu

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24-02-2013, 18:07

Sweet!!

By Guillian

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24-02-2013, 18:14

Nextor is just a MSX-DOS 2.5x
So, it will use the same pages that MSX-DOS 2 uses.
The cartridge is flashed with Nextor kernel, so it has "DOS 2" embebbed.

By OeiOeiVogeltje

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24-02-2013, 18:54

ehmm
Question
since some computers have an issue with the balance of SCC and PSG
is there some volume setting for the SCC which can be adjusted according to your own needs?

By yzi

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24-02-2013, 20:12

This is just my opinion, but I don't think "Nextor" is the most descriptive name for "MSX-DOS 2.5+"... But yeah, this starts to look like "Cartridge Ultimate" or something. What more could there be... slot for a USB memory stick? V9990 and OPL4? Shocked!

By syn

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24-02-2013, 21:05

The ULTIMATE cartridge for me personally would have been this one + memory mapper combined, so I can put this in slot 1 and philips music module in slot 2.

But ofcourse what am I complaining? This is very good, and I am probably gonna order this.

By Daemos

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24-02-2013, 20:33

Too awesome. This one is on my wish list.

By Bastiaan

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24-02-2013, 20:55

Wow, great development. Would save me quite some cartridge switching. And again better than the previous flash cartridge. What next could be added/ improved? I hope we can order soon.
(Could you integrate more soundchips? Tongue )

By yzi

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24-02-2013, 21:37

I've always wondered, how many re-flashings can the cart do before the memory chips start to wear out?

By Meits

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24-02-2013, 21:45

yzi wrote:

I've always wondered, how many re-flashings can the cart do before the memory chips start to wear out?

With normal use, I doubt we'll live long enough to find out Tongue

By Creepy

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24-02-2013, 21:49

If it can use a disk image as a ROM drive, would it be possible to expand on that and use it to actually run games from disk (including saving to disk, disk swapping etc)? Would be nice to have that available in the firmware so no other tools are needed (like runit, start.com etc) and probably increase the compatiblity of running disk images.

By Guillian

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24-02-2013, 22:05

@OeiOeiVogeltje: There are not volume setting. You can clone internal PSG using the external one, or patch Konami ROMs to use the external PSG.

@Bastiaan: There is no room in the FPGA for more sound chips.

@yzi: Each sector should last a minimun of 100.000 erase/write cycles. That's about 55 years rewriting your cartridge 5 times per day.

@Creepy: You can load and run up to 9 DSKs in read only mode (swapping disk is possible). To save data game you need to use a disk drive. The next version of Nextor will support DSKs, so it will be possible to save to DSKs in the SD card.

By Manuel

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24-02-2013, 22:32

Guilian - using Nextor, how backwards compatible is it with MSX-DOS 2.2? (As in: can I use it without any problems to let everything run as I expected, which ran with 2.2/2.3/2.4?)

By konamiman

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24-02-2013, 22:45

Quote:

A great Cartridge, is it possible to offer it MSX-DOS 2?

Is DOS2 embedded?

Allow me to clarify on this point since it seems that there is a bit of confussion:

Nextor is a fork of MSX-DOS 2.31

or, put it another way:

Nextor is the next version of MSX-DOS, but unofficial.

So, yes, Nextor is actually MSX-DOS 2, fully compatible with version 2.31 but with more features.

Read this (old) forum topic for more details: Nextor: the whole story

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Will it work with an MSX1?

Yes, MSX1 is supported. But unless you have a memory expansion in another slot, you are limited to MSX-DOS 1 mode. And another clarification in case that this is confusing too: "Nextor in MSX-DOS 1 mode" means "MSX-DOS 1 with support for partition management", and nothing else; do not expect FAT16 or any other Nextor features in MSX-DOS 1 mode.

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Will it need to be used on an MSX with a DiskDrive? or DiskROM? or does it have the DiskRom/Daisk Basic built in?

You don't need an internal disk drive to use this toy. But even more, yo don't need a disk drive even for upgrading the Nextor kernel: thanks to the recovery mode, you can upgrade it directly from a SD card!

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How many mapper pages used on MSX2 with Nextor?

The same as MSX-DOS 2.31: two pages, that is, 32K.

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This is just my opinion, but I don't think "Nextor" is the most descriptive name for "MSX-DOS 2.5+"

Well, nobody said "I don't think Linux is the most descriptive name for Minix+" twenty years ago :P

I'm sorry but I can't name it "MSX-DOS" since it is unofficial. I had to choose a new name, and since any name would have been confusing anyway, I just let my ego do the work. :)

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The ULTIMATE cartridge for me personally would have been this one + memory mapper combined

Agreed, but add USB and Ethernet ports too for me! ;)

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Guilian - using Nextor, how backwards compatible is it with MSX-DOS 2.2? (As in: can I use it without any problems to let everything run as I expected, which ran with 2.2/2.3/2.4?)

Everything that works in MSX-DOS 2.31 should work in Nextor. And if something does not, I really would like to know!

By konamiman

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24-02-2013, 22:45

And by the way, the Nextor version embedded in this device will not be the Alpha published one year and half ago. It will be a new version I've been working on, much more stable and usable, which will be published soon (in a matter of days if everything goes as expected).

By SkyeWelse

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25-02-2013, 03:57

Wow, nice update to the MegaFlashRom SCC+ Manuel! I may just need to save up for one of these! : )

Had a few questions that I was hoping to get some more clarity on:

1. After flashing a rom, what would be the normal process for launching Nextor again to flash a different rom? I guess I'm just confused, because with MegaFlashRom SCC+ the rom stays into memory until I run OPFX again from MSX-Dos.

2. You mentioned that this allows for use of loading disk images and also swapping between disk images in read only mode. Just wanted to know if it would be as quick and easy as what you demo'd when you launched Solid Snake by highlighting it and hitting enter. Could you describe this process for how this would work? This has been something I've always wanted...

3. Would there still be compatibility issues with certain dsk files or would the majority of .dsk files be able to be read without issue. With some disk emulation programs it seems that some disk files will work and other won't through trial and error.

4. Great! So if Nextor offers support for saving on virtual dsk files, there would eventually be a patch to upgrade the firmware / Nextor being used from the MegaFlashRom SCC+ SD right?

Awesome news, can't wait to try this out. : )

-Thomas

By tcruise

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25-02-2013, 07:08

Wow totally awesome - will definitely have to get one. Might be a month or so though, but definitely will get one.

By konamiman

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25-02-2013, 08:45

SkyeWelse wrote:

After flashing a rom, what would be the normal process for launching Nextor again to flash a different rom? I guess I'm just confused, because with MegaFlashRom SCC+ the rom stays into memory until I run OPFX again from MSX-Dos.

You have two options:

1. Press ESC while booting to prevent the flashed ROM to start (this key is configurable), then use the OPFX tool to erase the ROM.

2. Press cursor up while booting to enter recovery mode, then press F1 to erase the ROM, then reset.

SkyeWelse wrote:

Great! So if Nextor offers support for saving on virtual dsk files, there would eventually be a patch to upgrade the firmware / Nextor being used from the MegaFlashRom SCC+ SD right?

When a new version of Nextor is available, all that Manuel has to do to make a new BIOS is to run the MKNEXROM utility to cook the Nextor kernel base file and his SD driver together. So new BIOS releases will be available at the same time as new Nextor releases.

By Guillian

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25-02-2013, 09:11

SkyeWelse wrote:

2. You mentioned that this allows for use of loading disk images and also swapping between disk images in read only mode. Just wanted to know if it would be as quick and easy as what you demo'd when you launched Solid Snake by highlighting it and hitting enter. Could you describe this process for how this would work? This has been something I've always wanted...

I'm using MultiMente in the video. You can configure it to launch whatever command/tool you want depending on the file extension of the selected file.
I'll send the cartridges with a ROM disk installed that has MultiMente in it already configured.

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3. Would there still be compatibility issues with certain dsk files or would the majority of .dsk files be able to be read without issue. With some disk emulation programs it seems that some disk files will work and other won't through trial and error.

Most of them should work (all I have tested have worked)

By Creepy

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25-02-2013, 09:54

Would you mind testing Akin? It uses a combo of normal files (to boot) and direct sector reading. I haven't found a tool that emulates both so for me Akin is only playable using a real disk.

By Guillian

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25-02-2013, 10:56

I have tested Akin and it works. I can see the intro and start a new game.

By Akiguchi

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25-02-2013, 12:03

Creepy wrote:

Would you mind testing Akin? It uses a combo of normal files (to boot) and direct sector reading. I haven't found a tool that emulates both so for me Akin is only playable using a real disk.

Akin works also with RMSX.

By GuilianSeed

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25-02-2013, 12:45

Great news Manuel !!!
Count on me too.

Grtx.

By Creepy

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25-02-2013, 12:50

Akiguchi: I meant that I cannot run Akin on a real MSX using a disk image or running it directly from SD/CF. I need to write the image to a real disk to be able to run Akin a.t.m.

By Akiguchi

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25-02-2013, 15:19

Creepy wrote:

Akiguchi: I meant that I cannot run Akin on a real MSX using a disk image or running it directly from SD/CF. I need to write the image to a real disk to be able to run Akin a.t.m.

It works from Sunrise CF on a real MSX Turbo R using RMSX.

By Creepy

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25-02-2013, 15:25

Duh. Afcourse it works. I meant Magnar, not Akin. Must be the mondays......

By anonymous

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25-02-2013, 16:41

rmsx? hmmm... have to find out what that is... That way I can play Akin while waiting... Tried it last week, but no success...

Edit: Oh, thats turbo R only... That's why I didn't know it...

By mais1976

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25-02-2013, 16:50

Cool! Got to have one! Smile

By luppie

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25-02-2013, 17:25

Anyone in Nederland interested to ordering this cardridge and want to share the shipping costs ?
As soon as it is possible I will order one for my self.

By Pablibiris

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25-02-2013, 20:33

Guillian is my "MSX Hero"!!!

By Bastiaan

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25-02-2013, 20:36

@luppie: maybe I will, and I am living 20km south-east of Rotterdam...

By syn

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25-02-2013, 20:48

Where do you live Luppie and how much would I save on shipping compared to a single order? since I would need to travel to your place to pick it up i may end up paying more Wink I live in purmerend.

By Meits

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25-02-2013, 21:34

For just a few bucks the mailman takes care of that... Wink

By luppie

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25-02-2013, 21:54

I have ordered 2 cartridges from the cartridgeshop in the past.
Registered shipping 2 years ago was 24,-

Registered shipping in Nederland is 6,75 so you can do the math.
I was also contacted by an other user to do a combined order and I let him order mine, so I won't be ordering my self anymore.

By Meits

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25-02-2013, 22:31

The math in this case is that once a little batch is in the Netherlands, the national mailman can do the rest... One doesn't need to travel to the other side of the country to get the device Wink

By mais1976

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25-02-2013, 22:37

Count me in, I live in Amsterdam btw

By syn

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26-02-2013, 00:53

Meits wrote:

The math in this case is that once a little batch is in the Netherlands, the national mailman can do the rest... One doesn't need to travel to the other side of the country to get the device Wink

Yeah duuuuh ofcourse I know one could send it, I wanted to know where he lived if he lived close to me I could pick it up when im close by so I could save on shipping from holland to holland Tongue

@luppie Who's arranging the order? I would like to contact that person privately through mail or something (to stop derailing this newspost).

By Maggoo

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26-02-2013, 02:50

/me wants one :-)

By Daemos

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26-02-2013, 12:59

@luppie: count me in on the combined order as well.

@Guillian: I read no subslot simulation. Does this mean I can no longer do the gamemaster2 space manbow thingy with the SCC+ SD?

By Reintji

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26-02-2013, 13:58

Whoot! Signing up for this one!

By Guillian

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26-02-2013, 14:43

@daemos: In the new version you can't load ROMs to different subslots. You should keep your "old" MegaFlashROM SCC+ for that.

By OeiOeiVogeltje

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26-02-2013, 16:10

Hello pieps
i am going to do a "inkoopactie" for the dutch
whoever wants it
the idea is like this;
We wait for the definite price of the Flashroms (lets say is 100 euro's)
Shipping inside The Netherlands is 6,75 EURO (i think i have nice boxes so the cartbox wont be damaged)
one time shipping from spain divided between the number of participants
Luppie just said it was 24 euro's so lets take that for EXAMPLE
international bankingtransfer also costs money (not much though) lets say 5 euros

i already have 5 people
24 divided by 5 is about 5 euros
5 euros divided by 5 is 1 euro

so
100 + 6,75 + 5 + 1 euros will get you a flashcart

The participants will have the money on my account within 2(?) weeks after i actually start the "inkoopactie"

Participants will also agree that IF i get a Douane import fee to pay (which is not likely to happen)this will also be divided by the participants

this is just a rough idea on how i want to do things

i also dont want more than 20 of these things to handle (its just a hobby )
so first 20 will be served

By Daemos

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26-02-2013, 16:21

You won't have to pay douane import. We are within the EU and as far as I know the carts are coming from Spain.

So how do you count your people? Do we have to send you a e-mail?

By OeiOeiVogeltje

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26-02-2013, 16:35

hang on for an hour or so
then ill have more info

By anonymous

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26-02-2013, 20:56

http://www.msxinfo.net/inkoop-aktie/

please look here

kijk hier dus

YAY!!

By Daemos

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26-02-2013, 17:40

So we fill in the form after we know the price or can we start filling them out now?

Sorry for being a bit confused.

By Jorito

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26-02-2013, 17:49

OeiOeiVogeltje wrote:

http://www.msxinfo.net/inkoop-aktie/

please look here

Hey, you stole my quickly hacked-together image! :murdock:

By Meits

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26-02-2013, 18:58

Daemos wrote:

So we fill in the form after we know the price or can we start filling them out now?
Sorry for being a bit confused.

The aiming price is around € 100,-. But even if it turns out € 20,- more, I bet that wouldn't hurt an awful lot for most of us, considering what you get for it. I filled in the form right away... Don't wanna be the unlucky #21 Wink

By ray2day

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26-02-2013, 19:11

ordered!

By luppie

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26-02-2013, 19:15

Jorito wrote:
OeiOeiVogeltje wrote:

http://www.msxinfo.net/inkoop-aktie/

please look here

Hey, you stole my quickly hacked-together image! :murdock:

I stole the image oO
But I also backlinked to this article after you filled in the form :D

By Daemos

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26-02-2013, 19:35

ordered lets see if I am unlucky #21 Wink

By OeiOeiVogeltje

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26-02-2013, 20:16

nope
you are in

more people have ordered already
seems they dont care how much it costs

By Jorito

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26-02-2013, 22:23

Not to be annoying, but when I ordered a MegaFlashROM 7 months ago I only paid 9 euro for shipping and Paypal fee. That's not a lot, and if I look at these calculations here you'd pay more or less the same with the multi-buy Smile

By Meits

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27-02-2013, 07:31

I'm old fashioned and don't have paypal (well, I forgot my password after using it once some five years ago, but don't tell anyone)... I like to not have to use paypal... So I like this...

By konamiman

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27-02-2013, 13:11

By OeiOeiVogeltje

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27-02-2013, 15:34

Jorito
The calculation was just an EXAMPLE
right prices will be anounced by the time stuff gets done

i have 10 people now who want one
of course people who meet me at the monthly Marienberg MSX clubday will save the 6,75 EURO for dutch shipping of course.
Reden te meer om tegen die tijd eens langs te komen

By Retrofan

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27-02-2013, 16:59

OeiOeiVogeltje wrote:

Jorito
The calculation was just an EXAMPLE
right prices will be anounced by the time stuff gets done

i have 10 people now who want one
of course people who meet me at the monthly Marienberg MSX clubday will save the 6,75 EURO for dutch shipping of course.
Reden te meer om tegen die tijd eens langs te komen

Maybe you could get some discount from Manuel Pazos, because you place one big order directly which saves him time to sent it to all single users Wink

By OeiOeiVogeltje

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27-02-2013, 17:22

who knows....

By luppie

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27-02-2013, 20:53

I'm helping OeiOei out, by hosting the form.
But I can also take some logistics from him.
Living in the region Rotterdam, working in Amsterdam and often in Den Haag.

People that are living in one of those cities can drop by and can save on the shipping too.

By OeiOeiVogeltje

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27-02-2013, 21:09

kijk dan man!!!
goed bezig!!

By Daemos

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28-02-2013, 01:03

Den Haag??!! ohw lol thats very very close. Awesome.

By edoz

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28-02-2013, 08:27

is it still possible to use this device in a slot expander ? Using only the hardisk function ?

By Guillian

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28-02-2013, 08:48

It is not possible to use it in a slot expander. You must use it in a primary slot.

By OeiOeiVogeltje

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28-02-2013, 17:16

11 people

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28-02-2013, 17:55

12

By edoz

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28-02-2013, 18:17

hmmm.. i like the device! .. but to bad it can not work in a slot expander. Most of the time i use my playsoniq also.
This one must be (also) connected in a primary slot. (i use it as a memory expansion) This means for me that i have only one primairy slot left for the rest, like the CF interface and the moonsound or GFX9000. This means that i cannot run Symbos with a MP3 player and using the memory expansion from the playsoniq and the GFX9000....

hmmmm.. have to think Wink .. maybe it's possible to insert the playsoniq as a memory extention only in a subslot Wink
To bad the device cannot run only as a harddrive and disable the other functions when inserting in a sob-slot... hmmm..
Anyway .. the device seems to be cool ... have to think about it.

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28-02-2013, 18:25

Hello Edoz,

Not sure if this helps and I do not currently have a Playsoniq, but I did ask Supersoniqs the following question and thought his answer could be relevant to your post:

skyewelse wrote:

I think I read somewhere in your FAQ document / manual that if the Playsoniq is used along with a Slot Expander that some settings may need to be tweaked or disabled for it to work properly. I currently have a Ademir Carchino Slot Expander which I use along with the Snatcher Sound Cartridge (I know longer have this... sent to Retrofan) and my SD / MMC HDD to load roms from it into the memory of the Snatcher Sound Cartridge. I would very much like to do that same thing with the Playsoniq and be able to load games from my SD/MMC into the 512kB memory on board the PlaySoniq. Would this still be possible as long as I have certain settings on the Playsoniq disabled perhaps? As for any extra required power on the Slot Expander, I've got that covered since I have it hooked up to an external PSU (2 Amp 5 Volt, 500mA per slot).

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Supersoniqs Wrote: To be able to support the amount of memory the Playsoniq holds, we
implemented an internal slotexpander in the FPGA of the PlaySoniq.
Using two slotexpanders working at the same adresses in the same MSX
will eventually lead to damage on the slotexpanders. One user tried
and that resulted in a broken Playsoniq and he had a Brazilian
slotexpander (don't know which one)

Some users disable the internal expander, but then you have no memory
left. I can forward this question to Dennis Koller to see if there's a
work around, but I just wouldn't go that way. Things will go broke. I
would opt for the Playsoniq in one MSX slot and the MMC card in the
other one. Should be efficient to load SCC+ Games into the memory of
the Playsoniq.

Hope this helps,

-Thomas

By luppie

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28-02-2013, 18:44

Just to be clear and to prevent disapointments.
People who replyed to me in this topic "Count me in" and did not register on http://www.msxinfo.net/inkoop-aktie/ do NOT participate in the "Inkoop Aktie"
Please DO fill in the form :D

By Guillian

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28-02-2013, 19:58

I have updated MSX Cartridge Shop with the new MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD (^_^)

By Daemos

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28-02-2013, 20:37

Just awesome Smile

One question Guillian or if anyone else knows. What exact type of micro SD card needs to be inserted? There are like 10 different types.

By Bastiaan

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28-02-2013, 20:43

Euh?
Two different types? Could you explain what the difference is?

By Meits

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28-02-2013, 21:04

Guillian wrote:

I have updated MSX Cartridge Shop with the new MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD (^_^)

But you forgot to make a working link to the picture Wink

By Guillian

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28-02-2013, 21:43

@Daemos: any micro SD or micro SDHC will work. Perhaps also Micro SDXC (but I have not tested it and I doubt some will use that in an MSX in a near future) It also suports MMC and SD cards using an adaptor.

@Meits: it is fixed now. Worked on local, but the server is case sensitive and ".JPG" is not ".jpg" ^^!

By syn

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28-02-2013, 21:46

Guillian wrote:

I have updated MSX Cartridge Shop with the new MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD (^_^)

I read this in the manual:

Quote:

/RCxx Simulates a Konami cart inserted in another slot.
OPFX NEMESIS2.ROM /RC743<-Simulates
Penguin Adventure

is this an error (since you mentioned no more subslot emulation)?

Anyway thanks for the updated info. Now I have to decide if I need 1 or 2 cardslots Wink

By SkyeWelse

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28-02-2013, 23:58

Glad to see it being made available so quickly. I'm pretty sure I will order one, and hopefully it will arrive in time for our MSX exhibit that Maggoo and I are doing together in April! : )

Couple of questions that I have still. When Konamiman told me above about one of the options for erasing flashed content being a recovery mode, I guess I just sort of assumed that that wouldn't be something we would want to do too often, maybe only in emergencies... but now that I read on the website:

Quote:

- Recovery mode:
- Erase MegaFlashROM SCC+ content

This to me almost stands out as a "feature" more than a backup option. Would using this mode (Pressing Cursor Up and hitting F1, then reset) be something we can use normally to erase content without danger of breaking the device after a few times? Maybe it's just the name that is throwing me off "Recovery Mode", like a forbidden action that I shouldn't use unless I have to... : )

And lastly, so having two SD cards would do what exactly? Just give more space, or can slot partitions be made and selected at startup? Guess I'm just trying to understand what some of the advantages are of having two over one.

Thanks for your time Guillian. I will now start reading the documentation, especially to learn about how to load DSKs. And what was this I read on the site about having a MultiRom of 511 roms!? Holy Hell Batman! : 0

-Thomas

By Guillian

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01-03-2013, 01:20

syn wrote:

is this an error (since you mentioned no more subslot emulation)?

No, it is not an error (well, it should be OPFXSD not OPFX)
With that option you can "fake" a Konami cartridge combination. But is not a "real" cartridge combination, like with subslots. This means that if the Konami game only checks an RC number to put some extra features, it will work. But if the cartridge needs code or data from the other cartridge (i.e.: Mission X in Salamander + Nemesis 2) it will not work

By Guillian

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01-03-2013, 01:25

SkyeWelse wrote:

This to me almost stands out as a "feature" more than a backup option. Would using this mode (Pressing Cursor Up and hitting F1, then reset) be something we can use normally to erase content without danger of breaking the device after a few times? Maybe it's just the name that is throwing me off "Recovery Mode", like a forbidden action that I shouldn't use unless I have to... : )

The recovery name is just because with it you can restore the SD kernel and erase any problematic ROM, so you can "recover" your device.
You can erase erase the MegaFlashROM SCC+ with it if you doon't want to press ESC (or whatever key you configured)

SkyeWelse wrote:

And lastly, so having two SD cards would do what exactly? Just give more space, or can slot partitions be made and selected at startup? Guess I'm just trying to understand what some of the advantages are of having two over one.

Two SD cards slots means you can insert two independent cards, so you can remove one while working with the other.
But with only one slot you can mount several units. I.e.: with a 8 GB SD card you can mount 4 units of 2GB each one.

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01-03-2013, 20:25

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By roadfighter

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01-03-2013, 20:34

Quote:

But with only one slot you can mount several units. I.e.: with a 8 GB SD card you can mount 4 units of 2GB each one.

So having 2 slots has no big advantage, only if you want to copy some content from an other sd on to one of the drives you have.
If i have 4 drives( A,B,Cand D)with 2 Gb each then te next sd inserted would be drive G ? (disk drive being E and F ?)
And i would be able to copy from the second card to the first ?
Could the second slot be used to host Fat32 sd's ? so having a spare for moving files from and to a pc would be easyer ?

By luppie

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01-03-2013, 21:15

Updated the order form with the correct shipping cost and the possibility to pick-up your cartridge to save on the shipping cost. If you pick it up, you'll only pay € 1,10 shipping (if we have 20 orders).

By djh1697

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01-03-2013, 22:43

OeiOeiVogeltje wrote:

ehmm
Question
since some computers have an issue with the balance of SCC and PSG
is there some volume setting for the SCC which can be adjusted according to your own needs?

Reading the manual online, it appears you can disable the MSX PSG, and have the cartridge produce both sound chips. No mismatch of volume now Wink

By Guillian

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02-03-2013, 11:43

roadfighter wrote:

If i have 4 drives( A,B,Cand D)with 2 Gb each then te next sd inserted would be drive G ? (disk drive being E and F ?)
And i would be able to copy from the second card to the first ?

Nextor only assings two units per interface at boot time. So if you have a MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD and a floppy in your computer, you drives will be:
MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD = A: and B:
Floppy = C: and D:
Then you can mount more SD units in E:, F:,G: and H:
Also, you can overlap C: and D: floppy units with SD units

roadfighter wrote:

Could the second slot be used to host Fat32 sd's ? so having a spare for moving files from and to a pc would be easyer ?

No. You can use FAT16 cards for moving files from/to a PC.

By Meits

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02-03-2013, 12:19

You can use H: as well? Must be a Nextor feature... Much appreciated Smile

By Guts

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02-03-2013, 13:07

Wil long file names also work?

By Daemos

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02-03-2013, 14:56

If I get all of this right. It means that I never need floppy disks again unless I need to write something like a savegame.

I could even simply boot MSX-DOS from the cart with the dsk emulation right?

By Meits

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02-03-2013, 18:05

Daemos wrote:

If I get all of this right. It means that I never need floppy disks again unless I need to write something like a savegame.

I could even simply boot MSX-DOS from the cart with the dsk emulation right?

As I've understood a future update will be able to work with concatted DSKs with a built in user disk... But I might have understood it the wrong way... Please confirm...

By Guillian

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02-03-2013, 21:26

Guts wrote:

Wil long file names also work?

No, only short names.

Daemos wrote:

If I get all of this right. It means that I never need floppy disks again unless I need to write something like a savegame.

I could even simply boot MSX-DOS from the cart with the dsk emulation right?

That's right. Actually, I'll send the cartridge with a ROM disk installed that will boot as A:

Meits wrote:

As I've understood a future update will be able to work with concatted DSKs with a built in user disk... But I might have understood it the wrong way... Please confirm...

That's not right. The next Nextor update will support DSKs. This means you will be able to mount a unit using a DSK file, or run DSK games directly from the SD card.

By Creepy

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02-03-2013, 21:37

Daemos wrote:

Den Haag??!! ohw lol thats very very close. Awesome.

Seems like it almost a good idea to start a new MSX Club Zuid Holland Big smile (yes, I also live kind of close by)

By Meits

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02-03-2013, 21:41

Arrr... Pity... I hoped to have a replacement of runit which only runs sector based games... There's still loads of multiple disk games to be run from mass storage device which is rather hard...
You ran Akin, but what if the game asks you to insert disk 2?

By Guts

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02-03-2013, 23:44

Creepy wrote:
Daemos wrote:

Den Haag??!! ohw lol thats very very close. Awesome.

Seems like it almost a good idea to start a new MSX Club Zuid Holland Big smile (yes, I also live kind of close by)

Me to Wink

By Guillian

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03-03-2013, 00:42

Meits wrote:

You ran Akin, but what if the game asks you to insert disk 2?

Just press "2" key when accessing the disk. Then, the current DSK in use will be the one you loaded with /D2 option.
I.e: OPFXSD AKIN_2.DSK /D2

By Josb

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03-03-2013, 11:35

Hi,

I have a simple question, does it work fine on ST TurboR?

what I mean is that LPE from Padial has a bit problem with this model of TR and it doesn't sometimes start working because of low level of output energy in the ST TurboR. So, What about this Megaflash+SD?

thanks

By Guillian

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03-03-2013, 14:22

@Josb: Yes, it works fine. I have developed this cartridge using a turbo R ST. And Konamiman also tested it in his ST. Furthermore, all hardware I have tested on ST works fine (MegaSCSI, MegaSD, MegaFlashROM SCC/SCC+/SRAM, etc...)

By MicroTech

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04-03-2013, 09:58

Hi Guillian!
This seems to me the "definitive" storage solution for any MSX, an excellent hardware with an excellent software support by Nextor.

I also have a few questions, both on hardware and software side:
1) are there compatibility problems with 1chipMSX?
2) how does Nextor assing units name on 1chipMSX with MegaFlashROM-SCC-SD?
3) will MegaFlashROM's SCC interfere with an SCC inserted (obviously) in another slot?
4) if I understand correctly there is a secondary (external) PSG, how is this implemented? Is it a real chip or inside an FPGA?
5) if there is an FPGA, what is used for?
Thanks

By Guillian

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05-03-2013, 09:20

@MicroTech:
1,2) I have not tested on a 1chip MSX
3) It should work as a normal SCC cartridge. What do you mean with "interfere" (sound, mapper access...)?
4) It is implemented in the FPGA
5) The same implementation used in the 1chip MSX

By MicroTech

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05-03-2013, 10:08

Hi Manuel, thanks for your reply.

1,2) is it possible to give a try with a 1chipMSX, please?

3) I mean mapper access, but that was I my lack of experience: investigating I found that SCC is memory mapped (not I/O mapped) so it is possible to have more SCCs connected, sorry for unnecessary question.

4) & 5) cool! This is very interesting for me. So there is also an EPCS device (or equivalent if you don't use Altera) that configures fpga at boot using active serial programming?

By OeiOeiVogeltje

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05-03-2013, 16:38

this friday the INkoopactie will end
People who participate will get a mail with every info you need

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07-03-2013, 20:32

ONE day to go!!!!
tomorrow at 18:00 the inkoop actie will be closed
we have 12 people now

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08-03-2013, 18:31

Mail has been sent to all participants
please let me know ASAP if you applied and didnt get any mail!!

By boomlinde

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13-03-2013, 15:03

This is cool! I have the MegaFlashROM SCC+ and it's served me well. Just a quick couple of semi-unrelated questions -- What is the file browser used in the video? Is it something that comes with Nextor? Also, could you share that OPX collection Smile? I have some 50-or-so files gathered from various sources (spread on a bunch of diskettes). Is there some definite collection of opx songs I missed out on?

By Guillian

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13-03-2013, 16:26

The file browser is not a Nextor feature, but MultiMente.
I got those OPXs from different sources. I'll try to pack them all and share somewhere.

By Creepy

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13-03-2013, 16:31

OeiOei: I didn't get an email?

By luppie

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13-03-2013, 19:39

Guillian wrote:

The file browser is not a Nextor feature, but MultiMente.
I got those OPXs from different sources. I'll try to pack them all and share somewhere.

Guillian has send them to me and I've put them on the download section of http://www.msxinfo.net
They are downloadable per file and as a single packed rar file (look for All OPX files)

By boomlinde

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13-03-2013, 23:05

Thanks luppie and Guillian!

By enribar

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15-03-2013, 09:05

Yesterday my cart arrived!
Only one question: user manual is not in the box... is it shipped with it or available online only?

By Guillian

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15-03-2013, 09:22

The manual is online only.

By SVeN

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16-03-2013, 10:57

Does someone successfully used the "MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD" cartridge with OCM ?
Putting this cartridge in an enabled external slot results in an "illegal function call in 0" error message.
Holding ESC or CURSOR UP while booting didn't help. Still the same error message.
Previous, non SD-version of the MegaFlashROM SCC+ works fine.
Any clue ?

By enribar

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16-03-2013, 14:43

And so... I'm a happy owner of this cart, but I cannot understand why a "getting started" paragraph for dummies is not included into manual...

Btw, video explains very well where is the main point:

before to start to enjoy the SD drive, do I have to copy some of these files http://www.konamiman.com/msx/msx-e.html#nextor into the MicroSD card and then launch SD2TOC to mount the card?

Another point: I have a 1GB MicroSD formatted with Windows 7 exFAT 32KB dim alloc. Is it all ok?

By Guillian

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16-03-2013, 15:51

@SVeN: I have not tested it on a 1chipMSX.

@enribar: I'll try to make a "getting started" guide.
To use the SD drive you only need to insert a FAT12/16 micro SD card in the SD slot 1, power on your MSX and wait it boots. That's all.
The cartridge is shipped with a ROM disk that has Nextor files, MultiMente and several tools.
SD2TOC will mount microSD slot 2 in C: when the cartridge is inserted in slot 1. Check Nextor documentation for a full description of MAPDRV and how to mount partitions and devices.

Quote:

Another point: I have a 1GB MicroSD formatted with Windows 7 exFAT 32KB dim alloc. Is it all ok?

As explained in the manual, you must format the card in FAT12 o FAT16

By enribar

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16-03-2013, 16:30

Thankyou Guillan, I've just "discovered" some steps.
But I would say it with simpathy Smile in the MSX world, things are never clear and simple at a first sight... everytime you have to start a quest to understand every thing.
So I start my personal "getting started" guide for dummies:
- put (possibly <2GB) MicroSD into one MegaFlashROM-SD Slot; slot near the front is slot2, the other is slot1 (so wich slot to select?);
- start MSX2 with cart inserted, Multimente will be launched; press immediately ESC to go to A:\>;
- type BASIC to go in MSX-BASIC;
- type CALL FDISK to call partitioning software;
- follow instructions to format MicroSD as you want; be sure to select the ID of your MicroSD; format will be FAT16; in my case I want a full FAT16 1GB partition;
- be sure to save partition table, committing operations with W;
- reset MSX;
- select DRVINFO to have a complete descriptions of drives; note in a piece of paper the infos of the card (slot, subslot, unit);
- now in MultiMente you have to modify the SD2TOC.BAT, that contains a call to MAPDRV, with the right parameters (slot, subslot, unit) in order to map the C: with the MicroSD.

Is it all right?

By SVeN

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16-03-2013, 16:55

Guillian wrote:

@SVeN: I have not tested it on a 1chipMSX.

To be sure there wasn't any problem related to hardware, I've tested the "MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD" in GT and A1WX. Everything seems working, using a 4GB µSD card.

I cannot figure why it's not working in OCM and I still have this annoying and blocking "illegal function call in 0" error message.

By enribar

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16-03-2013, 16:58

Please help me to see this MicroSD...
Drive C: is not mapped to Slot1, in any case MAPDRV returns ***Invalid Drive.
Maybe the problem is that I have inserted the cart in slot 2 of the MSX, but it is a primary slot, so what the point...?

By Guillian

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16-03-2013, 19:34

@enribar: Be sure your card is in FAT12 o FAT16. Then insert it in SD slot 1 or 2. Power on your MSX.
Nextor will mount only two drives per disk interface. This means that if you have a ROM disk installed, A: will be the ROM disk and B: the microSD slot 1 (in case you have a card in it, if you only have a card in slot 2, then B: will be SD slot 2)
Then, to mount SD slot 2 you must use MAPDRV.
So, if the cartridge is in MSX slot 2, the card is in SD slot 2, and you want to mount it in C:, you should type:
MAPDRV C: 1-0 3 2-3
(Mount on C: partition 1-0 of the device 3 (sd slot 2) of the disk interface inserted in slot 2-3
I think it could be easier if Nextor would mount all the drives automatically (A: ROM Disk, B: SD 1 and C: SD 2) Perhaps in the next release ^^!
Don't hesitate to ask whatever you need.

By StarshipUK

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17-03-2013, 06:07

I am a little confused

For MultiRom the manual says: It is possible to put several games into the cartridge at the same time, as many as they fit in the cartridge's memory, up to 511.

The Specs say: 8192KB (64 Mbits) flash ROM memory

So the questions I have are:

1. Is the flash memory 8MB or 64MB?
2. So even if I put a 4GB SD Card in, using MultiRom I would still be limited by the 8MB (or 64MB) flash ROM Memory.

I have just downloaded 109 MSX ROM Files. These come to around 6MB, so if the limit is 8MB how would you be able to fit 511 ROM Carts in a memory that small?

I own two MSX2 which I got cheaply from the EBay. The MSX was not big at all in England so I don't think many people are into them here, and they do show up in the UK very rarely. One is a Philips VG-8230 with 192k RAM and the other is a Philips VG-8235 with 256k RAM (poor condition and controller port 2 is missing a pin). Although the VG-8230 is in much better condition and I guess most games will run fine with 192k RAM with no problems.

Also does anyone know if MSX games used one button or two button controllers, and whether the wiring of the joystick ports was different to other 8 Bit machines, like the C64 or Master System? If so does anyone know whether you can get MSX joystick adapters anywhere?

By Marq

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17-03-2013, 08:17

64 Mbits = 8 Mbytes Smile A normal Atari joystick will do, the only difference is the second button that "normal" joysticks don't usually support. You can play most games without it, too, but you might need to hit a key (in Konami shoot-em-ups M) to get the 2nd button functionality.

By enribar

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17-03-2013, 10:14

@Guillian: thankyou very much Guillian! These are the informations I needed!
So the "getting started" is very simple: put a <=2GB FAT16 formatted card into Slot1, this will be drive B:.
This cart is great! The embedded MM recognizes ROMs, DSKs and other formats and uploads authomatically into the flash!
If you want to erase ROM actually present into the flash, just push cursor up at the boot and choose the right menu item (usually option n.1 to erase Flash content).
Only one thing lasts: accessign the B: (the SD card) with a DIR command, hangs the MSX... But maybe it's a matter of wrong SD formatting from Windows. I'll repeat procedure with a more common FAT, choosing in Windows FAT / 16KB.
Thanks and soon with other experiments Hannibal

By Bastiaan

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17-03-2013, 10:31

@StarshipUK

You might want to read this article about controllers:
http://www.msx.org/wiki/How_to_get_joypad_for_MSX

And next to the 8MB of flash inside the cartridge you will have mass-storage on the sd-card that you can use with it.

By enribar

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17-03-2013, 15:26

Ok soo... all works very good, apart the drive access by Dos commands.
I go to the dos prompt, type B: and I'm into the MicroSD drive: then I use DIR, all files and directories are shown, but MSX hangs... It hangs while showing the number of files, free disk space, etc.
Same operation with MultiMente works. correctly.
Any help?

By StarshipUK

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17-03-2013, 15:56

Thank you for the replies.

@Bastiaan Do you know if that joypad would also work on the X68000?

Also I understand that I will have the SD Card storage available, but if I wanted to change the cartridges I would need to change the MUTIROM.OPF file and recreate the MultiROM image. For me I would much rather just be able to have everything available like the Everdrive Multicarts, from a single menu without having to faff around. I see this as being a 8MB Multicart as a result of this limitation, which is a shame.

By Guillian

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17-03-2013, 19:49

@enribar: Bear in mind that after a DIR command in DOS, you will need to wait while it calculates the free space. It can take a while depending on the size of the partition.

By Maggoo

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17-03-2013, 23:25

Got mine yesterday, this things works great. Got a 4GB sd card in it and have been trying out roms all afternoon :-)

I'll try the other features tomorrow but I wanted to thanks it's creators for this wonderful device and the very fast shipping !

By enribar

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18-03-2013, 09:03

@Guillian: yes you're right! I leaved the MSX to calculate free disk space, and after 30 seconds the prompt appears again!
So MSX does not hang, I was too quick to press reset...! Evil

Is there a solution to this "problem"? The 1chip MSX MegaSCSI drive displays free disk space immediately.
So:
1. Do I have to make smaller partitions?
2. Do I have to fullfill the SD card to speedup calculus? (=Does It depend to the number or size of files?)
3. Do I have to change COMMAND.COM version? (now 2.44).

By MicroTech

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18-03-2013, 09:48

@enribar: would you be so kind to try MegaFlash-SCC-SD with ocm, please?

By Guillian

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18-03-2013, 10:42

@enribar: Are you using the same card (capacity/partition) on the 1chip MSX? The time should be the same.
Anyway, you can use Nextor's RALLOC.
I.e.: RALLOC B: ON

From Nextor "Getting Started Guide":
When a drive is in reduced allocation information mode, the Nextor function ALLOC, which returns information about the total and free space on a drive and is used by COMMAND2.COM to display the free space, stops calculating free space when it reaches the amount of 32MB and returns this number instead of the real amount. This causes the free space calculation time for FAT16 partitions to be significantly shortened, especially for very large partitions.

@Maggoo: You are welcome!

@MicroTech: SVeN reported he had problems using the cartridge on the 1chip MSX.

By MicroTech

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18-03-2013, 11:41

Guillian wrote:

@MicroTech: SVeN reported he had problems using the cartridge on the 1chip MSX.

That's just the reason for my post: I ordered MegaFlashROM-SCC-SD trusting it would work on 1chipMSX...

By konamiman

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18-03-2013, 17:53

The definitive solution for the free space calculation time would be to patch COMMAND 2.44 so that it does not calculate the free space after a DIR command. Or better yet, it does or not the calculation based on the value of an environment string.

I've heard about a tough and wise man in the northern Spain that has the power to disassemble and improve MSX programs and has done it in the past with Multimente and others, but that's probably just an urband legend... Tongue

By Daemos

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18-03-2013, 19:26

Or use the command that TNI made. The work has allready been done.

By enribar

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18-03-2013, 19:50

I confirm that MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD works on 1chip MSX!
Plugged cart into cart-slot 1 and mounts are:
- A: internal MegaFlashROM-SD's flash drive;
- B: MicroSD flash card;
- C: 1chip MSX MegaSCSI SD drive;
- D: 1chip MSX MegaSCSI SD drive (copy of CSmile.

I have not burn any ROM or DSK into MegaFlashROM.
I have only opened a TXT file wih Ank and Kanji chars and works!
Operation done with MultiMente.
O.S. boot is the one of the MegaFlashROM, not the SCSI one (because the DIR command is slow...).

By MicroTech

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19-03-2013, 09:32

@enribar: Thanks for your help.

@ SVeN: any news about the "illegal function call in 0" problem?

By SVeN

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19-03-2013, 12:49

MicroTech wrote:

@ SVeN: any news about the "illegal function call in 0" problem?

No, still the same annoying and blocking message.
My OCM is updated with the last KDL (OCM-PLD v3.2 RC2) improvement file.
OCM slots 1, 2 and SD card are "dipswitch" enabled.

The MegaflashromSD works fine with the GT.

By Bastiaan

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19-03-2013, 19:52

@Daemos: the command 2.44 used IS the latest tni command2.com version!

By MicroTech

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20-03-2013, 09:47

@ SVen: what about trying MegaflashromSD (in slot #1) on OCM with the original pld installed?

By SVeN

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20-03-2013, 16:41

@MicroTech : I've done some additionnal test.
Restoring the OCM in its original condition doesn't help.
Trying OCM-PLD v3.2beta 6 and v3.1 results in the same error message.

For now, who successfully ran the MegaFlashromSD in an OCM ? And what's the used configuration ?

By enribar

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20-03-2013, 17:25

Me! I ran the MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD on a original 1chip MSX, without any firmware update.
Results are:

I confirm that MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD works on 1chip MSX!
Plugged cart into cart-slot 1 and mounts are:
- A: internal MegaFlashROM-SD's flash drive;
- B: MicroSD flash card;
- C: 1chip MSX MegaSCSI SD drive;
- D: 1chip MSX MegaSCSI SD drive (copy of CSmile.

I have opened a TXT file wih Ank and Kanji chars and works!
Operation done with MultiMente.
O.S. boot is the one of the MegaFlashROM, not the SCSI one (because the DIR command is slow...).

Update:
- Flashed ALESTE.ROM from MicroSD to MegaFlashROM and worked perfectly (all done at a very high speed!). After that, returned to default SD configuration with the cursor-up + F1.

By SVeN

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21-03-2013, 12:12

Here you are others informations I've collected when using the MegaflashromSD on the GT (for these tests, flashrom and romdisk were erased). SDcard (2GB, FAT12 or FAT16) was initially left blank.

First of all, everything works in the recovery menu (erasing flashrom, SD-kernel and romdisk; installing SD-kernel).

When I power on the GT, nothing related to the MFSD is displayed and I'm brought to the embedded BASIC.
Still when power on, CURSOR UP bootkey brings me to the recovery menu but SDcard isn't "initialized".

A reboot later, MFSD cartrige and its SDcard are recognized, then I go to the Nextor BASIC prompt. The partitionning tool works without any problem. And if I hold CURSOR UP while rebooting, everything related to the SDcard is correct in the recovery menu.
I also can use MM from the previously backup of the diskrom contents.

I wonder if this behaviour can explain the problem I'm encountering when using MFSD with OCM ?
By the way, even when using RESET on OCM, I still have the "illegal function call in 0" error message.

By enribar

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21-03-2013, 12:14

Next step... Experiments with 4GB partitions.
It's time to program the "Next Generation MSX Software"!
Hi-tech software that could benefit of a very high speed and capacity mass storage device.

By Guillian

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21-03-2013, 15:24

4GB partitions should work fine. But writing speed is slower (also on PC) than in smaller partitions.

By Meits

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21-03-2013, 16:47

I already found out on my fat16 cf cart... It seemed like a diskdrive writes faster than that... At first I thought something was wrong, but it all seemed perfectly easy to explain...

By enribar

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24-03-2013, 19:34

Ok 4GB partiotions work very well!
I have partitioned 16GB into 3 partitions of 4GB and 1 final partition of 2GB.
Read/write speed seems very good to me, even better than the CF-IDE one!
Only have to know how to swap between partitions.

By Guillian

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24-03-2013, 20:08

You can mount different partitions using MAPDRV. I.e.:
MAPDRV C: 1-0 2 1-3 (mount in C: partition 1 of SD 1 cartridge in slot 1)
MAPDRV D: 2-0 2 1-3 (partition 2 in D)
MAPDRV E: 3-0 2 1-3 (partition 3 in E)
MAPDRV F: 4-0 2 1-3 (partition 4 in F)

By enribar

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26-03-2013, 22:40

Ok Guillian thankyou very much!
I'm going to do some experiments with MSX1.
I will format a dedicated MicroSD with 1 main partition of 16MB. Or I will create this configuration:
- 1st partition 4GB;
- 2nd partition 16MB;
- 3rd etc 4GB and filling partition.
In this case, the cart inserted on a MSX1 will recognize automatically the 16MB partition as the drive B: (?).
The same cart inserted on a MSX2 will recognize automatically the first 4GB partition as the drive B:.
The other partitions will be mounted with MAPDRIVE.
I will test MegaFlashROM with the Frael Bruc 100 MSX compatible computer.

By Guillian

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26-03-2013, 23:05

I think Nextor will always mount the first partition in B (or the one with NEXTOR.DAT file in it)
On DOS1, you can try to make several partitions of 16MB and change them from BASIC using:
CALL MAPDRV(“B:”,2)
CALL MAPDRV(“B:”,3)
etc...

By konamiman

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28-03-2013, 09:04

Beware! If you create more than four partitions with FDISK, only the first one will be primary and all the other will be extended. Nextor only scans primary partitions for automatic assignment at boot time. So it's better to create only four partitions or less.

By enribar

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28-03-2013, 09:09

Yes, at boot time Nextor searches for primary partition compatible with the MSX-DOS version.
So I think a good configuration for a single MIcroSD should be:
- 1st partition 4GB (primary for MSX-DOS 2 boot);
- 2nd partition 16MB (primary for MSX-DOS 1 boot);
- 3rd partition 16MB/4GB (mounting partition (CSmile for MSX_DOS 1/2);
- 4th partition ... (to choose).
Could it be?

By SVeN

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29-03-2013, 11:50

Sorry to come back with the same question .. Sad
Excepting Enribar Wink, did someone used the MegaflasromSD on OCM without any problem ?

By ray2day

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31-03-2013, 20:21

Quote:

Yes, at boot time Nextor searches for primary partition compatible with the MSX-DOS version.
So I think a good configuration for a single MIcroSD should be:
- 1st partition 4GB (primary for MSX-DOS 2 boot);
- 2nd partition 16MB (primary for MSX-DOS 1 boot);
- 3rd partition 16MB/4GB (mounting partition (CSmile for MSX_DOS 1/2);
- 4th partition ... (to choose).
Could it be?

Question about this: Isn't it so, that the boot partition of MSX always has to be FAT12?; and if so... isn't the maximum size of a FAT12 partition 32MB?

By enribar

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31-03-2013, 23:41

Hi ray, now max partition size is 4GB, because MegaFlashROM uses NEXTOR as disk operating system. It supports FAT16 natively. For the MSX1 in "MSX-DOS 1" mode, Nextor manages 16MB.
See here: http://www.konamiman.com/msx/msx-e.html#NextorUserManual

By ray2day

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01-04-2013, 16:03

So if I understand correctly it's 'plug (a fat16 format card in) and play'...?

And what is csmile?

By Guillian

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01-04-2013, 18:11

Yes. Fat16 card are supported natively. Just insert it and use it.
You can boot from a FAT16 drive without problem.

"csmile" is (C: ), but without the space.

By SkyeWelse

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02-04-2013, 05:47

Tonight I finally got a chance to start playing a bit more with my newly purchased MFRSCCSD.

And well... Kinda also got myself in a bind this evening. I learned today how to use FDISK to create partitions on my SD card and made four partitions, one 4GB Fat16, one 2GB Fat16, one 1GB Fat16, and one 16MB Fat12. Then I put some rom and disk files onto the one partition (the first one, 4GB) that shows up in Windows, the other partitions do not allow a lettered volume to be associated with them for some reason. Then while the MFRSCCSD was initializing and launching MultiMente, I changed drives to drive B) and started to load some roms to play. Worked great! And hitting the UP arrow bringing up the Recovery options to erase the MegaFlashRom contents worked great as well.

Then, I decided for whatever reason, it would be a "Great" idea to see what would happen when launching a Disk file in MultiMente thinking it would place it as a new Disk Rom image. It did something for sure and started to launch a disk, then in the Recovery screen I thought it would be another "Great" idea to erase the Disk Rom... After another reset, I saw the disk file try to load as a rom again, so I hit F1 in Recovery mode to erase the Rom file. Then that's when I noticed that I was no longer able to boot directly into MultiMenti... I had apparently erased it. lol Now it was launching Nextor Basic. So in Recovery Mode yet again, I thought I would try to re-install the SD Kernal, and before I did that, I figuered it would be a "Great" idea to erase the SD Kernal before reinstalling it. lol So after 3 "Great" ideas, my MFRSCCSD cart doesn't load anything and cannot initialize an SD card.

So... obviously, before I do anything else as a fourth "Great" idea, I figured I'd ask what my next steps should be. I've read the manual for the MFRSCCSD and I've downloaded the OPFXSD.com which is what I will need to flash anything to the cart, right? And the first thing I should install I'm guessing would be Nextor.rom, only... where can I find this? I didn't really see this file available anywhere, even when checking Konamiman's website. I guess I would also need to find the "diskrom.rom" and "romdisk.rom" files as well, but I've been unable to locate these either.

Sorry for the trouble guys, but I guess someone had to break it first, and it might as well be me!

-Thomas

By Guillian

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02-04-2013, 08:53

Don't worry. It is easy to reconfigure your cartridge.
You can find Nextor files (both kernel ROM and recovery file) in the Nextor homepage Just download the recovery file, erase you first partition, put the file on it and use the recovery menu to load the kernel (F4)

Copy NEXTOR.SYS and COMMAND2.COM to the card, so you can boot in Nextor (DOS2), or MSXDOS.SYS and COMMAND.COM for DOS1

Here is a detailed tutorial in Spanish about how to reconfigure your cartridge.

OPFXSD.COM
ROMDISK.DSK
DSKROM.ROM
KERNEL.DAT
RECOVERY.ROM
NEXTOR.SYS

Download these files and install what you need (probably 1 only):
1- Install ROM disk: OPFXSD ROMDISK.DSK /id
2- Install DSK kernel: OPFXSD dskrom.rom /i1
3- Install RECOVERY: OPFXSD recovery.rom /i34

Some advices:
- Don't erase ROM Disk unless you don't want MultiMente, preconfigured tools and that nice A: read-only drive
- Don't erase SD Kernel unless you really don't want to use your SD interface

By ray2day

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02-04-2013, 13:03

After keeping an eye on this topic, finally my wife bought me so micro sd cards, so tonight I'm going to hobby/experimenting (dutch; onzinnig klooien/frotten) with my new megaflash scc+ sd MSX toy.

Have a little question about dos1;
Is MSX-DOS1 possible under FAT16?
Or does Nextor have a dos1-like mode which works under FAT16.

Thanks for the tip to remove MultiMente. I don't like the programm.

By Guillian

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02-04-2013, 14:50

On DOS1 you can't use FAT16, only FAT12
You can press "Q" to exit MultiMente. Easy and fast. In this way, you still have A: ROM disk with Nextor files and several tools.

By ray2day

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02-04-2013, 15:50

And 1 (start-)parttotion FAT12 size 4GB is also possible under Nextor?

Or to make partition2 16MB FAT12 like enribar says?
And; Is it possible to switch boot partition (always/all the time)?

By Guillian

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02-04-2013, 17:05

Using FAT12 you can't create a 4GB partition. Only up to 32MB
If you are going to use the cartridge on a MSX with <128K RAM, then you need to use FAT12 and 16MB partitions.
I think you can choose the default boot partition adding NEXTOR.DAT file to it.

By enribar

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02-04-2013, 17:48

Hi ray, so this is the state-of-the-art:
- FAT12 and MSX1 with <128KB RAM you can create and manage max 16MB partition size;
- FAT12 and MSX1 with >=128KB RAM you can create and manage max 32MB partition size;
- FAT16 and MSX2 you can create and manage max 4GB partition size.
Each time you boot MSX with MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD, the cart auto-search for a partition to mount as drive B:

So usually and with the configuration I suggest:
- on a MSX1: drive B: is the 16MB partition;
- on a MSX2: drive B: is the 4GB partition.

By ray2day

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02-04-2013, 19:06

Thanks for answers guillian and enribar.

Does anyone know (easy) uitils to format a micro sd FAT12/16 and make partitions (of a particular size) on a Mac?

I managed to format my 8GB micro sd card to MS-DOS FAT16 on my Mac, but it's only 1 partition [capicity 2,15 GB, available 2,14 GB, used: 2.654.208 bytes (2,7 MB on disk)].

When I start up the MFRscc+SD sees a card in slot1, MM starts up. When I go to the prompt and I type B: I don't see the volume on my MSX.

To big size? Thanks for help.

By enribar

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02-04-2013, 22:58

Mmmh, it is better that you format SD with the FDISK utility:
- start the cart with the empty SD inserted;
- escape from MultiMente to A: ;
- go to BASIC;
- type CALL FDISK;
- follow instructions to make partitions.

By ray2day

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03-04-2013, 17:29

Wow... now I'm working with it I like it very much!
The readonly ROM drive is super. How can you change it? I read above you can put a diskimage with own preferred files (712Kb??) in it.

By Guillian

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03-04-2013, 17:48

Yes, you can make a DSK image file using Disk Manager or similar. Also, you can copy the files to a floppy or to a 720KB partition and then use FDSAVE to create the DSK file.
Finally, install the new DSK using OPFXSD name.dsk /id

By barroidh

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03-04-2013, 20:42

How can I start the MegaFlashrom SD card on a VG8235 without diskdrive ? I have installed the disk.rom and the romdisk with dos files , but I only get the intro screen .

By Meits

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04-04-2013, 08:27

Is it possible to configure your own romdisk? I've checked the romdisk.dsk in diskmanager and it seems to be just a regular .dsk file. Booting it in openMSX won't work, probably because of Nextor?

By Guillian

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04-04-2013, 09:02

@barroidh: can you explain in detail what you have done? DISKROM.ROM file is for loading DSK files. ROMDISK.DSK is the ROM disk installed by default in thecartridge. It has Nextor and DOS files.

@Meits: It is a normal DSK file.

By barroidh

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04-04-2013, 09:40

I formatted the Megaflashrom + SD ,made 40 partititions of 16 MB with _FDISK. I put MSXDOS on the SD card .

Then I used the DISK.ROM from RUMSX , used OPFXSD DISK.ROM/I1 , made ROMDISK.DSK in Disk manager with MSXDOS files added , used OPFXSD ROMDISK.DSK/ID , installed it . On my VG 8020 the romdrive starts up . I can change to the SD ( B: drive ) in basic by _CHKDRV command . On the VG8235 without diskdrive , it only shows the intro screen ( Megaflashrom and SD card are found ).

By Guillian

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04-04-2013, 10:38

There was any problem with the cartridge so you needed to reinstall it?
The cartridge is fully configured (ROM disk, kernel, dskrom and recovery) when you receive it.

Installing DISK.ROM from RuMSX will cause the DSK simulation to not work. You can find the link to the right file some post before.

If the ROM disk you made is right, MSX-DOS should boot on the VG8020.

About the VG8235 without disk drive. Perhaps Konamiman knows if Nextor could have problems with it.

By barroidh

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04-04-2013, 12:08

MSX-DOS does boot on the VG 8020 from romdisk . There was no problem with the cartridge , just didn't work on the driveless VG8235, NMS 8280 and VG 8020 working well.

By enribar

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04-04-2013, 12:20

Really don't know the reason why MSX people is masochist... :-)
The use of MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD is very simple after reading the getting-started tutorial:
- insert a new MicroSD in any slot of the MFRSS;
- insert MFRSS into MSX and power on;
- exit MultiMente with ESC+Y;
- enter in BASIC from A:\>;
- launch CALL FDISK;
- follow instructions to make partitions as you want, for your MSX generation (suggestion at least: n.1 of 4GB (MSX2), n.1 of 16MB (MSX1), etc. to fill card); remember to write partition table with W before to exit;
- reset your MSX;
- MSX will restart MultiMente on drive A: ;
- first correct partition managed will be labeled B: ; to go into, in MultiMente type L + B ;
- extract (hot swap) the MicroSD and put it on the PC card reader; fill it with many MSX files, as you want; reinsert cart into MFRSS and re-select L + B, so MultiMente will read directory!

By enribar

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04-04-2013, 12:23

This evening I will try MFRSS on my driveless TurboR GT.
In the past someone tried to physically mount a second drive on the GT, unsuccessfully, and now it start only with a boot-floppy-disk inserted...

By Guillian

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04-04-2013, 13:07

@barroidh: Ok. I'm don't know what is wrong with the VG8235 without disk drive

@enribar: You can also select another drive by pressing 1-8 numbers (A=1, B=2...H=8)

By Meits

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04-04-2013, 19:03

Guillian wrote:

@Meits: It is a normal DSK file.

I can open the 720kB image in diskmanager indeed, but if I insert the DSK in openMSX after it's been booted to basic and give FILES commant, I get a Disk I/O Error. Is this intended? I thought it was just an ordinary file based DSK...

By mars2000you

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04-04-2013, 19:33

Meits wrote:
Guillian wrote:

@Meits: It is a normal DSK file.

I can open the 720kB image in diskmanager indeed, but if I insert the DSK in openMSX after it's been booted to basic and give FILES commant, I get a Disk I/O Error. Is this intended? I thought it was just an ordinary file based DSK...

The same in blueMSX ... More surprizing : no any way to get the MSX-DOS command line and to enter DIR oO

With DOS23.DSK in drive A and ROMDISK.DSK in drive B in a generic TurboR, DIR B: gives this message :

Not a DOS disk reading drive B:
Abort or Retry (A/R) ?

Probably the formatting of this DSK is not standard.

By mars2000you

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04-04-2013, 19:57

I've succeeded to extract all the files (including those in directories) with the Japanese DiskExplorer : http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA013937/editdisk/index_e.html (Disk Manager can't extract the directories).

Then I've created a new DOS-2 formatted DSK with Disk Manager and used the Japanese DiskExplorer to transfer all the files (including those in directories). Guess what ? Now the DSK can be read normally with FILES or DIR ! :)

By Meits

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04-04-2013, 20:09

but is it a valid file to use as romdisk.dsk?

By Meits

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04-04-2013, 20:20

Oh... Nice... I can't flash a rom or dsk anymore with opfxsd O_o
I get as far as ooooo........... and then the system just freezes...

Ehm... help?

By mars2000you

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04-04-2013, 20:21

Meits wrote:

but is it a valid file to use as romdisk.dsk?

Probably not, I suspect that the special formatting is linked to NEXTOR.

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04-04-2013, 20:30

Meits wrote:

Oh... Nice... I can't flash a rom or dsk anymore with opfxsd O_o
I get as far as ooooo........... and then the system just freezes...

Ehm... help?

Oh... As soon as it didn't work anymore from the sd cart it worked on just a few minutes ago, now it works again from another cart... Must be sd cart related...

By luppie

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04-04-2013, 22:09

SVeN wrote:

Does someone successfully used the "MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD" cartridge with OCM ?
Putting this cartridge in an enabled external slot results in an "illegal function call in 0" error message.
Holding ESC or CURSOR UP while booting didn't help. Still the same error message.
Previous, non SD-version of the MegaFlashROM SCC+ works fine.
Any clue ?

I've tested the MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD on a One Chip MSX.
See my video on http://www.msxinfo.net/2013/04/04/megaflashrom-scc-sd-on-a-one-chip-msx/

By OeiOeiVogeltje

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04-04-2013, 22:53

so there
i replaced the original autoexec.bat with one that suits me more
and it even works

but
i put this line in it too
SHELL=A:\COMMAND2.COM

and it seems it doesnt like that (file not found?)

my autoexec.bat as it looks now;
path=b;\m;b;\utils
mode 80
a:\mapdrv c: 1-0 3 1-3
alias /l b:\alias.dat
set expert =on
ver

By ray2day

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05-04-2013, 13:06

Hello Guillian. In the manual you give an example to load a .dsk file into the flashrom; OPFXSD undead.dsk /D1
Also you give information about switchingb disks, when more disks loaded.
But how to actually load two disks?? For example when I have to files; EXAMP1.DSK and EXAMP2.DSK

By luppie

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05-04-2013, 13:15

OPFXSD EXAMP1.DSK /D1
OPFXSD EXAMP2.DSK /D2

By Guillian

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05-04-2013, 15:09

@ray2day: luppie is right.
As explained in the manual:

Quote:

In order to load a DSK you must use /D option, followed by the number of disk you want to select (from 1 to 9)

You can have different disk games at the same time. In example:
Game 1 in disks 1-3
Game 2 in disks 4-6
Game 3 in disk 7
Game 4 in disks 8-9

Then, too boot the game you want, just hold the number of the first diskof the game while booting your MSX.

By ray2day

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05-04-2013, 17:35

Thanks both for explanation. Okay, but you have to type separate commands for each disk as I understand. It can't be done in 1 commandline for more disks?

Cool megaflashscc+sd-in-1chipmsx movie Luppie btw

By ray2day

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05-04-2013, 17:35

I see the mfrsccsd startup, then restart as 'virtual' readonly disk(drive).

To load the the MSX Mania disks CTRL has to be held at startup, but this doesn't work with the mfrsccsd. Any chance of loading them with mfrsccsd??

By Meits

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05-04-2013, 18:52

You can write a batchfile for it... I just trial and errored (without error) to make one for Akin

copy con akin.bat
opfxsd akin1.dsk /d1
opfxsd akin2.dsk /d2
^z

This way you could make a dir filled with batch files for (multiple) disk games...

By Meits

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05-04-2013, 19:12

feature request:
When there's a mapdrv for a second sd cart and the second sd cart is not inserted, the system crashes... This is annoying when you got this in your autoexec.bat on the romdrive... Could an error handler be implemented?

By ray2day

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05-04-2013, 19:37

Quote:

You can write a batchfile for it...

Making batchfiles for every multiple diskgame was not exact my intention (...still thanks for thinking with me, Meits!).
My question was: if there is perhaps a one-command-line-way to load multiple disks?

By luppie

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05-04-2013, 19:59

Just create one batchfile:

copy con mountdisk.bat
opfxsd %1 /d1
opfxsd %2 /d2
^z

Then just execute : MOUNTDISK EXAMP1.DSK EXAMP2.DSK

(I've not tested it with opfxsd, but it works in DOS2.2 with other commands)

By Meits

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05-04-2013, 20:01

That's the misfortune of such huge mass storage devices, so many games. But then again, I bet you won't play all at the same day... If you want to play one, you can make a batch file... That way I bet it's hardly any labour... It might be something Nestor could make a .COM file for... For example flash akin1.dsk+akin2.dsk which executes opfxsd akin1.dsk /d1 followed with the same thing for disk 2...

Idea: Let's compile a list with feature request Smile (I got two in mind already Wink)

By luppie

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05-04-2013, 20:27

Probably it's also a good idea to continue the technical discussion in a Forum Topic Cool

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05-04-2013, 23:45

By Guillian

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05-04-2013, 23:55

@ray2day: Hold "D" key to have more memory when running DSKs. Also, you can press "P" to set MSX1 palette

By Latok

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06-04-2013, 10:03

Guillian, how do i discard the sd interface so the computer boots from floppy diskdrive?

By Guillian

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06-04-2013, 12:55

Actual Nextor versión can be disabled by pressing SHIFT, but that will also disable floppy diskdrive.
So, you can erase Nextor kernel or remove the cartridge from its slot.

Current WIP Nextor version lets you to disable its kernels selecting the desired slot.

By ray2day

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06-04-2013, 14:58

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@ray2day: Hold "D" key to have more memory when running DSKs. Also, you can press "P" to set MSX1 palette

Thanks for support again.
oO Sorry for bothering you, but this information isn't in the manual.

With this kind of information added it becomes a super device more and more. Cool

By enribar

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06-04-2013, 15:31

This is really a super device! Thank to it, maybe we'll have another special MSX machine emulated... Stay tuned! Nishi

By ray2day

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06-04-2013, 17:08

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maybe we'll have another special MSX machine emulated

now i am curious...

By SkyeWelse

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06-04-2013, 17:40

Guillian wrote:

Don't worry. It is easy to reconfigure your cartridge.
You can find Nextor files (both kernel ROM and recovery file) in the Nextor homepage Just download the recovery file, erase you first partition, put the file on it and use the recovery menu to load the kernel (F4)

Copy NEXTOR.SYS and COMMAND2.COM to the card, so you can boot in Nextor (DOS2), or MSXDOS.SYS and COMMAND.COM for DOS1

Here is a detailed tutorial in Spanish about how to reconfigure your cartridge.

Next I'll work on trying to get disk files to load. Haven't had much of an opportunity yet to play around with this new toy. : )

-Thomas

OPFXSD.COM
ROMDISK.DSK
DSKROM.ROM
KERNEL.DAT
RECOVERY.ROM
NEXTOR.SYS

Download these files and install what you need (probably 1 only):
1- Install ROM disk: OPFXSD ROMDISK.DSK /id
2- Install DSK kernel: OPFXSD dskrom.rom /i1
3- Install RECOVERY: OPFXSD recovery.rom /i34

Some advices:
- Don't erase ROM Disk unless you don't want MultiMente, preconfigured tools and that nice A: read-only drive
- Don't erase SD Kernel unless you really don't want to use your SD interface

Thanks very much Manuel! It took me a little longer than I thought it would, but I have all the steps down for how to repair the MegaFlashRomSCC+ SD now and I have everything working just as it once was. It was a little tricky though at least for me, especially for the Nextor.rom since there are two versions that can be found at Konamiman's website: one for the SD card (which I couldn't get to work in Recovery Mode at first when placed in the first partition of the SD card as it just never discovered it) so I ended up flashing it using my SD/MMC drive. The Romdisk.disk file which was read-only at 720kB seemed to require me having access to an external device that could support formats larger than 720kB to be able to flash the file to the cart, so I'm glad I had that option. If I hadn't, I'm not sure I would have been able to put all the Nextor and Multimente tools back on.

Also, I am not sure this works the same way on all MSX machines, but at least on my Turbo R, the new MegaFlashRomSCC+ SD does not initialize on Power On, (ie hitting the power button) but only during a reset using the reset button. So I had to kind of master making sure to remember this concept or when I landed in MSX Dos being ready to flash items to the flash cart or it just wouldn't find the MegaFlashRomSCC+ SD cart at all. Secondly, for some reason on my Turbo R, holding the ESC key does not prevent the MegaFlashRom from loading. The only way I'm able to accomplish this is to hold down the reset button for an extended amount of time, such as 5 to 8 seconds, then it will boot the MSX, initialize the MegaFlashRom, but doesn't start it automatically. : ) All of that = Success.

By Guillian

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06-04-2013, 18:16

Tomas, nice to hear you got it working, but I think you chose the hard way Tongue
I mean, you downloaded Nextor.rom instead of NExtor kernel for recovery. The first one you need to install it from another disk interface (what you did). The second one can be installed from recovery (easy way)
Also, once the Nextor kernel is installed, the SD interface will work. So if you put in it MSX-DOS/Nextor files, the cartridge will boot the operative system.
From there, you can flash ROM disK DSK using OPFXSD (all in you SD card)

About the cartridge does not initialize on power on. Just install the recovery ROM I linked in my former post:
RECOVERY.ROM
OPFXSD recovery.rom /i34

About ESC not preventing the ROM in MegaFlashROM SCC+. What ROM did you flashed and how? ESC will not work if you set a different key with /Txx option.
Just erase you current game from recovery with F1 and write another game for testing.

By Guillian

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10-04-2013, 09:08

Here is a MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD tutorial in English. It is focused on MSX1/DOS1.

By barroidh

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17-04-2013, 21:36

I installed a .dsk file with OPFXSD .dsk /i1 option .After that the installed rom on the flash cartridge didn't start anymore , and the SD card was not recognized anymore . I tried recovery.rom , installed the diskrom again , erased the flash cartridge , no result . Erased the SD kernel also . How can I reinstall the SD kernel ?

By Guillian

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18-04-2013, 09:13

You should not be able to install a DSK with /i1. OPFXSD will throw an error saying "Invalid DSK kernel..."
To reinstall SD kernel and ROM Disk at once, just put KERNELD.DAT on an empty SD card and use F4 option from recovery.

By barroidh

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18-04-2013, 14:07

I mistyped . I installed a .dsk image with /d1 option ofcourse . After that the SD drive was not recognized anymore. The SD kernel was stiil installed then .I thought it would help if I removed and reinstall the kernel .

I tried F4 option with KERNELD.DAT file on SD card , it said ' SD card init error ' . In my SD/MMC card reader however, the SD card works well . The diskrom file is installed on the Flashrom .

By Guillian

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18-04-2013, 14:30

Then probably it is not related to configuration, but a problem in the SD slot. Contact me by email.

By barroidh

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19-04-2013, 17:29

Thanks . It's working now . Formatted in FAT through Windows , then Installed KERNELD.DAT with Recovery F4.
Nextor boots , when I go to MSXDOS it only shows 133120 bytes free though on a 2 Gb formatted card ?

By Guillian

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19-04-2013, 18:23

On MSX-DOS1 you can't use FAT16, only FAT12 and partitions up to 16MB.

By StarshipUK

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24-04-2013, 01:48

I am having two problems:
1. I have 140 ROM files I want to use. After copying 110 files, no more files will copy to the SD card although it appears there is still space on the card.
2. Using the above tutorial (7 posts up here), I have added 110 filenames into MULTIROM.OPF and also copied OPFXSD.COM to the SD Card. From a B> prompt when I then run the command OPFXSD /O on the MSX2 it displays the following:
Loading MULTIROM.OPF.

Processing MULTIROM.OPF...
1942.ROM
Opening file : 1942.ROM

Usage: (OPFXSD (filename.ext) [/opts]
Example: OPFXSD MGALIOUS.ROM /k4 /e

Options:

It then shows a list of all the switches and options and returns to a B> prompt. It does not add any files. I have also tried making bubble bobble the first file in the MULTIROM.OPF file (as shown in the example on the tutorial as this should need no switches) and the same thing happens. Please can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?

By Guillian

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24-04-2013, 09:03

1- What is the size of those 140 ROM files? Bear in mind that multiROM menu will take some ROM space and 8K ROMs will be padded to 16K

2- Are you using the lastest OPFXSD?
Since you can make MultiROM in point 1 but you can't in point 2, I think there is something different in the MULTIROM.OPF file. Can you post the first lines of it?

By StarshipUK

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24-04-2013, 13:54

Thank you for the reply.

1. They are different sizes, but I thought the multirom menu was built into the cartridge - not a file on the SD Card. I guess this could be related to the FAT12 and file sizes though.

2. I have a Philips MSX2 VG-8230 and a VG-8235. I was trying the VG-8230 last night. Interestingly it is behaving like a MSX1 with the cartridge and not loading the file software on boot like a MSX2 should do. When I plugged it into the VG-8235 it is loading the MSX2 file software on boot and OPFXSD /O is working like it should. Would be interesting to know why the VG-8230 is not working.

3. A new problem - It appears the cartridge menu loading software is limited to 3 pages and 90 files. Is there any way to increase this so it shows all ROM files that have been added rather than just the first 90?

By Guillian

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24-04-2013, 15:21

2- VG-8230 has 64K RAM. It can't load MSX-DOS2/Nextor, only MSX-DOS. So you can't use FAT16, directories, etc. That's why MultiMente doesn't boot.
3- I have uploaded OPFXSD v1.07 It should be fixed now.

By luppie

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24-02-2014, 14:34

1 Year MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD and still loving it Big smile

By Guillian

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24-02-2014, 14:55

Thanks luppie!
I didn't realized a year has passed ^^!

By luppie

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24-02-2014, 15:23

B.t.w. last week I was looking for OPFX (for my MegaFlashRom) but could not find it on your site. The link http://www.msxcartridgeshop.com/bin/opfx.com still works, but there is no reference on your site.

By Creepy

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24-02-2014, 16:12

A year already? Wow! Still loving it, also Smile

luppie: Go to http://www.msxcartridgeshop.com/, click on "Flash" and click on "MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD". Scroll down and all related downloads are there including version numbers.

By Guillian

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24-02-2014, 17:45

I have added the old OPF and OPFX to the downloads.

By mars2000you

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24-02-2014, 18:56

Guillian wrote:

I have added the old OPF and OPFX to the downloads.

Precision : you need to clear the cache of your browser to see the links to these downloads (refreshing the page is not enough when a site uses Flash pages).

By Guillian

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24-02-2014, 19:52

mars2000you wrote:

Precision : you need to clear the cache of your browser to see the links to these downloads (refreshing the page is not enough when a site uses Flash pages).

Flash? Where?

By JohnHassink

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24-02-2014, 20:20

Flash! Ahaaa!
(sorry, sorry)

By mars2000you

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24-02-2014, 21:06

Wink I like Queen ...

Actually, I thought it was Flash but after having checked the code, it's extremely intensive using of Javascript in script.js file !

By anonymous

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15-04-2014, 21:23

Hello,
Im André and new at this forum
I've got the megaflashrom scc+ sd but when i want to create a mutlirom with b: opfxsd /o but í'll get error reading files.
I've made a text file whit the names .rom and at the end of the list [end] i can't figure out what i'm doing wrong.
I'm folowing all procedures as dicribed:

http://blog.falvarez.es/2013/04/megaflashrom-scc-sd-tutorial...

By AndreV

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16-04-2014, 09:35

I figure it out, You've got to rename the text file into multirom.opf then it works perfectly.

By Guillian

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16-04-2014, 10:33

Hi,
You can post all your questions about MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD here.

Also, you can use multirom.opf (default) or any other filename like "shooters.opf", etc. I.e.:
OPFXSD shooters.opf /o

By toughkidCST

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21-06-2015, 14:15

MegaFlash SCC+ SD is known as that contains SCC-I function.
So I wonder how to use 64KB what SCC-I owned memory.

Why TNI's romload.com can't discover it?
Could you tell me, how can I use a handy little memory, please.

By Guillian

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21-06-2015, 18:27

The SCC-I has no memory.
The "Sound cartridge" (SCC-I and RAM) included in Snatcher and SD Snatcher has 64K RAM.

The SCC-I of MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD is just the sound chip (without RAM)

By toughkidCST

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22-06-2015, 02:49

It sounds strange.

Even so, how can MFSSD make run the games which use 64kb memory
like Sd snatcher, Konami game collections... and more others?

By Guillian

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22-06-2015, 08:59

Probably you are using cracked versions. If you try the original disks it will not work.

By toughkidCST

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22-06-2015, 09:13

Thanks. I understand
Have a warm & good week Mr.

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