Bold MSX demo

by dvik on 26-10-2009, 08:51
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At the Alternative Party a new demo by dvik&joyrex was released. The demo ended 1st in the Alternative demo competition where it competed against demos for a variety of platforms, including C64, Atari ST, and PC. This together with all the cool demonstrations NYYRIKKI and his team provided at the party is a great success for the MSX platform.

Relevant link: dvik&joyrex website
Relevant link: Bold MSX demo at YouTube

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By [D-Tail]

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26-10-2009, 09:52

Wow, very impressive demo! Thanks guys Smile

By Huey

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26-10-2009, 10:07

Looking sweet. I think I saw some C64 influence Wink

Wasn't there a video of this (on accident) before on youtube?

By wolf_

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26-10-2009, 10:07

Yep, in July.

By ibantxuyn

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26-10-2009, 10:37

WOW!! IMPRESSIVE!!

Congraturaltions for this nice demo! Big smile

By wolf_

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26-10-2009, 14:38

Did anything change compared to the one I saw in July?

By dvik

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26-10-2009, 15:04

I don't think anything big changed. This one runs on MSX2 as well. Quite interesting actually, it ran just fine on MSX1 but had huge issues with VDP outs being too fast on MSX2. So much for backward compatibility Wink

By only_69

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26-10-2009, 17:25

Daniel,
Just checking your website.
The following link is wrong:
http://www.dvik-joyrex.com/development/basiclist.zip
It should be
http://www.dvik-joyrex.com/download/basiclist.zip

By Whizzy

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26-10-2009, 20:52

I can only say... OMFG...

very , very impressive LOL!Cool

By gargamel

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26-10-2009, 21:11

Excellent work, stunning composition, a breath taker! Cool

By Sander

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26-10-2009, 22:46

Simply amazing!

By dvik

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27-10-2009, 04:06

I made a much better youtube version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKqqOcTFVm0

wolf_, can you update the link in this newspost. It would be great if someone that has access to pouet.net could update that link as well. Once both places are updated I'll delete the old version.

By Yukio

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27-10-2009, 04:21

Good demo ...

By spl

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27-10-2009, 06:22

Outstanding!!!! Big smileBig smileBig smile

By wolf_

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27-10-2009, 09:31

Link changed

You know, everytime I see the Bold logo, the erase-wipe of that logo, and those stars, I feel I've seen them before. Wink

By viejo_archivero

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27-10-2009, 11:12

you're my heroes Shocked!

By dvik

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27-10-2009, 15:23


You know, everytime I see the Bold logo, the erase-wipe of that logo, and those stars, I feel I've seen them before.

Hmm, I think the bold logo may have been inspired by the logo of a group that made some quite nice games for MSX, i can't remember the name, but I think its infinite or something Wink

The stars, both the gfx and routine is directly taken from Lotus F3 actually.

By Huey

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27-10-2009, 15:30

I love the big bouncing balls. Must take a lot of CPU to calculate them Wink Tongue

Alternative Demo Competition

* First place: 2000 € cash + a Nokia N900
* Second place: 700 € cash
* Third placce: 300 € cash

By dvik

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27-10-2009, 16:14

I love the big bouncing balls. Must take a lot of CPU to calculate them

Actually it does. They are all calculated in the demo itself. There is a background task that starts just after the roulette wheel is copied to VRAM. So they are actually not pre calculated on a PC or anything, all done on the MSX itself Smile

The demo actually implements a little mini-os, with background tasks that can be scheduled and queued up, and interrupt tasks that can be scheduled.

By wolf_

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27-10-2009, 16:39

I wonder whether a new MSX demo-challenge would be worthwhile in these MSX years. Something like: "64KB ROM, MSX1, 64KB RAM, PSG, 3.58Mhz". I see three dark clouds hanging tho:

  • dvik&joyrex being the only ones to submit an entry, because making demos like that is not very widespread anymore.
  • others not submitting an entry because they know dvik&joyrex are probably in for the first place anyhow
  • people yelling they'd love to compete with an MSX2 entry and some more specs..

By dvik

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27-10-2009, 16:57

There are certainly plenty of people capable of doing great MSX demos, question is I guess if they want and have time. I was quite surprised though of the quality of the demo competition at the MSX Info Update party. NYYRIKKI didn't really advertise much about it but there were a couple of really good entries: http://pouet.net/party.php?which=1471&when=2008 so perhaps it could work. Last MRC demo compo was in 2004 or something, right?

By hap

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27-10-2009, 16:59

I don't see that happening, 10 years ago maybe. Hold F11 to reverse time.
The most realistic choice is what dvik&joyrex have done: compete in one of the mixed-platform demoparties.

By wolf_

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27-10-2009, 17:04

'Bounce', yea. It was also pre-PopularMSXdevYears, so people were less busy with games 'n things. Apart from groups like dvik&joyrex, Traktor and such, I've not the feeling there's an awful lot happening regarding demos.

At the same time I feel that the traditional scroll 'n logo genre is a thing of the past, and those few demos that do get released on MSX are more and more becoming like newskool, as seen on plenty other systems. That is, imho, a good development.

By Huey

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27-10-2009, 18:05

I see three dark clouds hanging tho:

I see one more:
- Dvik and joyrex just won 2000 euros in a multiple platform competition. No use to compete with that with an MSX only competition.

Cool

By Yukio

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27-10-2009, 19:37

In this case ... congratulations for the nice prize!
Running Naked in a Field of Flowers

By Latok

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27-10-2009, 20:34

This demo is even better than a caramel Sundae Ice Cream!!

By Ivan

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27-10-2009, 20:44

Thanks for demos like this one! Smile

By poke-1,170

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28-10-2009, 02:12

daymn ! job well done guys !
very nice tune as well ^^

By yzi

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29-10-2009, 09:16

This is a great demo! I especially like the flow of things - no more stopping to load the next part, and the parts are tied together. And the music is great too. Since we can't have "track loaders" on MSX (because AFAIK the floppy drive timings are different for each manufacturer/model so disk IO must rely on BIOS), everything must fit in one executable, and so precalcs must be done inside the MSX itself.

I'm sure we'll see more MSX1 demo scene productions in 2010. Big smile Hopefully also something from Lieves!Tuore... Wink

By doraemonppc

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29-10-2009, 17:16

Awesome production!
Please, keep in this way LOL!

By killimolli

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30-10-2009, 07:52

Awesome!

Now, we need co-op msx1 or msx2 demo by dvik&joyrex+Bore^Traktor and sdw^Noice.

Its my wet dream..."one demo to rule them all" Big smile

-killimolli

By bore

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30-10-2009, 09:54

Not likely to happen and you forgot the rest of the Traktor members and the nice guys from Tulou.

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