Old New Stock #5: Noise Disk

Old New Stock #5: Noise Disk

by Meits on 19-10-2017, 22:06
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We go back to the year 1993. The year in which a very young group of MSX demo scene enthousiasts solidified the foundation of great things to come. A year earlier the creative friends already released their first music disk called Death Track with which they already pleasured our ears with music written in FAC Soundtracker 2.0.
With this second music disk they took the logical step which everybody else (except for Impact) had taken. They moved to Moonblaster to have their music played in stereo.

Dear MSX lovers. For the Dutch people who were in De Bremhorsthal in Tilburg on April 3th 1993 it is no surprise what we're talking about, and for the people who weren't there due to age or geographical difficulties: Now you can relive the early 90s or get acquainted with Noise Disk (the title of the news post gave it away a bit) by Compjoetania.

For long this disk was impossible to find and only few people got it to run in an emulator. This was due to a copy protection which was claimed to be rather nasty. On our request to Compjoetania veteran Bart Roijmans (a.k.a. Low_Profile) to publish Noise Disk here, he answered that we would have to deal with the copy protection ourself. Two guys, Louthrax and LarsThe18th managed to get rid of the copy protection quite quickly. Even though only one can be published, they're both credited and thanked for their effort.

Now it's time to make the download counter go wild with Compjoetania's Noise Disk.

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Comments (22)

By Pencioner

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19-10-2017, 22:25

Nice one! Though what do i do for have a complete experience? It plays via MSX-MUSIC only regardless that i've put a Wozblaster in second slot. I think i'm a little bit confused, does it use Philips Music Module as a second one?

By Manuel

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19-10-2017, 22:51

Yes, the MoonSound didn't exist before 1995 Tongue

By Manuel

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19-10-2017, 22:52

By the way, for preservation purposes it would be nice to also publish the DMK dump that includes the copy protection.

By MOA

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20-10-2017, 00:20

I gotta say: really love the Old New Stock series. Thanks Meits and contributors!

/downloading

By KdL

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20-10-2017, 01:16

I love it! Smile
I remember only a byte to bypass the cp. Tongue
Also I have the ROM conversion.

If it may be interesting, I did the same thing on Screen 11 Designer.

By Meits

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20-10-2017, 01:22

Let me guess, a C9 on a certain point? Hannibal

By KdL

Paragon (1177)

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20-10-2017, 10:03

It's been a long time, I should recompare the original. Wink

By poke-1,170

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20-10-2017, 12:06

Nice to read a bit about the scene's history and earlier musical endeavours, something I didn't know much about, apart from seeing some FAC demo at a computer club in Venray in the 90's. Cheers Meits Smile

By Abi

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20-10-2017, 15:48

I bought one at that MSX fair, still got the disk.... Nice memories!

By Pippo

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20-10-2017, 17:25

Super fantastic, Meits! Big smile
These tunes are excellent, really! Smile
Thanks a lot as usual. Smile

By Meits

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20-10-2017, 21:12

It was the first music disk I bought. Then when I quit the scene at the end of the nineties I lost track of it/gave it away. Then several years later Repair Bas was so friendly to donate it to me when I asked on this site if someone was willing to sell his. Coming to think of it: willing to buy a Music Disk of more than 20 years old Smile
The hacking was done based on this original disk. Louthrax was skilled to turn read-dmk.com into a version that can work with a Sony 700. I don't recall if he fixed it to store on mfr-sd as well. Must be. iirc read-dmk only works on Philips and needs two drives. It worked very well thanks to this fine French person. Some future Old New Stock editions will exist because of his involvement as well Smile

By Pippo

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21-10-2017, 09:43

Thank you again, Meits, for your beautiful words.
Louthrax is a very great person, like you and the others.
As I said on other occasions, this is an Important Community, for me and for all Msx World.

By syn

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22-10-2017, 13:27

Love that Space Manbowing tune. I had a midi file of it for years but did not know the origin of it, nor did I know who made it. So I'm actually surprised to hear this on msx!

Thanks for sharing

By Meits

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22-10-2017, 14:24

This is in fact the original. The midi file is a cover of this one.

By syn

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22-10-2017, 15:37

Yes that was what i assumed Wink

By valkyre

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22-10-2017, 22:20

I seem to be having problems with the menu on this. Basically , I can only listen to one track per boot of the Msx. If I try to move from one track to another then the second track will never play. Anyone any suggestions?

By Meits

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23-10-2017, 00:09

What setup are you using?

By JohnHassink

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23-10-2017, 01:17

Some songs show to be saved as MSX-Audio only, but (at least in openMSX) will play in MB-Stereo when running the actual disk. The replayer could be forcing a chip setup that doesn't go so well in all cases.

By valkyre

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23-10-2017, 08:00

I tried it with Mfr, Philips 8245 and fm pac( no Msx audio) and also on a TurboR. Same results on both machines.

By Meits

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23-10-2017, 10:44

Here is goes wrong in that setup as well. If I use putdisk to put the dsk on a real disk and run that all goes well. Seems to be an MFR issue. For me it's far from the first dsk which MFR has problems with.

By Meits

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24-10-2017, 02:06

JohnHassink wrote:

Some songs show to be saved as MSX-Audio only, but (at least in openMSX) will play in MB-Stereo when running the actual disk. The replayer could be forcing a chip setup that doesn't go so well in all cases.

That's normal behavior. the MB player always assumes the user wants to hear stereo if both chips are found and will play the channels to the chips as set by the composer in stereo mode. If he switches it to mono before saving does not make a difference.
Tunes that have been made for MSX-Audio only need the chip select to be set in the game/demo to do so.
i do agree that on some tunes on Noise Disk the stereo settings are a bit weird.
Hapert, C.O.C. could use some drums on MSX-Music.
Infinity only has bass and drums on MSX-Music. The MSX-Audio samples are quite nice though.
Trolletaal only has the lead and the bass on MSX-Music.
No Limit, ehm Tongue
My guess is that especially those tracks should be played with both chips on both sides. Maybe Low_profile remembers his motivations for the stereo settings for these tracks. Maybe he didn't have both chips isolated to left and right at that time.

By KdL

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24-10-2017, 18:50

My backup files: NOISE DISK (DSK+ROM)

ROM is a Konami SCC