PSG2SCC

by NYYRIKKI on 11-05-2010, 00:15
Topic: Software
Tags: Utilities
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Every once in a while, NYYRIKKI, code wizard from the land of the vikings, empties his harddisk. Following his SIDplay, we've also added PSG2SCC to our freeware downloads database. This TSR makes it possible to hear SCC-sounds in games and programs made which were originally made for PSG. This is an easy way to extend your game music, regardless of whether you are a game developer or just an experienced user.

Relevant link: PSG2SCC

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By NYYRIKKI

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11-05-2010, 00:19

Before you ask: No, it does not work with SIDplay Tongue

By FiXato

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12-05-2010, 16:52

aww.. you read my mind ;p

By OeiOeiVogeltje

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13-05-2010, 15:52

i believe i saw something simmilar with the new Franky cart?

By Randam

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15-05-2010, 13:24

Nice program! Would it also be possible to make something like PSG2FM or is that much harder?

By wolf_

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15-05-2010, 13:46

I'm not sure the frequencies would match (so you'd need a conversion table).

Also, only the software voice could be used successfully because hardware voices may have a slightly slower attack, which may be impractical for -for instance- arpeggios. So, it really depends on the music. I don't think those freaky pt3 tunes would survive, but Penguin Adventure could.

By Marq

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20-05-2010, 07:21

I guess there were vikings in Finland too - they came here to pillage at times Smile2

By MäSäXi

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20-05-2010, 20:54

you´re right marq, there were vikings on ancient Finland too.

By JohnHassink

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22-05-2010, 00:57

There were? I saw a gang of them a few months ago, on Dutch soil, wildly grabbing MSX stuff and pillaging a Chinese restaurant! Smile

By Huey

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22-05-2010, 20:17

Yes I was there too. Thank god I didn't take my girlfriend with me. Imagine..........

By Hydragon

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24-05-2010, 18:50

I even drove them to their hotel.....Evil

By Meits

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26-05-2010, 17:27

I even saw them on youtube... Darn deluxe...

By alexito

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30-08-2019, 22:05

Thanks Nyyrikki for give us such excellent tool, I have adapted the game "Mr Hawaii" to use it with your default WAVE setup also I have understood how the waves are stored so now using OpenMSX with "TOGGLE_SCC_Viewer" and "TOGGLE_SCC_EDITOR" I can choose my favorite WAVE SAMPLE via "SET_SCC_WAVE".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysjmo8KXL_8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4ujgLtiWIY

By alexito

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31-08-2019, 00:39

here it is:

Chuckataisen PSG2SCC Patched

Enjoy!!!

By alexito

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31-08-2019, 08:46

Other PSG2SCC Patched game:

Baby Dinosaur Dooley

Enjoy!

By alexito

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31-08-2019, 20:11

other PSG2SCC Patched game:

BARUNBA

Enjoy.

By alexito

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01-09-2019, 00:52

By alexito

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05-09-2019, 19:53

Other PSG2SCC patched game:

Famicle Parodic

Enjoy!

PS: Tested with OpenMSX (NMS-8245) and SCC

By gdx

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06-09-2019, 00:57

Could you integrate the patches into the game floppy disk?

PS:
I saw in your video that you created a multi-boot. Why put Sofarun several times?
You should add M file manager. Some functions are interesting. You can also set up several loaders with it (until 7).

https://www.msx.org/wiki/M_File_Manager

By alexito

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06-09-2019, 01:54

Gdx:Could you integrate the patches into the game floppy disk?
I DID Where it is possible (Mr Hawaii)

Gdx:I saw in your video that you created a multi-boot. Why put Sofarun several times?
You should add M file manager. 
M file manager is already installed on my zemmix SDcard but for my different testing and MSX Sanno MKII I used to use sofarun ver1 because it memorize the last directory used and it make use of Screen 0 required for MSX with TMS9918

By Pentarou

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06-09-2019, 06:43

Alexito: I watched your Scramble Formation SCC video and noticed that when there's a SFX the background music drops one of the voices to play the SFX.
Since the PSG it's doing nothing, could it be possible to use it to play the SFX and leave the SCC free to play the BGM undisturbed?

By alexito

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06-09-2019, 23:15

Pentarou: Yes that happen to the original game also. The patch just enhance the original audio making a quick patch intercepting the VBLANK Routine and checking the PSG Volume for Channels A,B and C. Your suggestion require more time to discovering how the Scramble Formation BGM & SFX works. I remember when I did that for Xenon because I love the PSG BGM so much I had decided to hack original BGM/SFX Routines and duplicate it in 2 different 16kb Bank Pages from there I just Play the BGM(MSX-PSG) from one 16KB/Bank and the other (MFRSCC-PSG) 16KB/Bank was just for SFX then I called XENON Enhanced with Dual PSG and ADPCM Engine for the Level voices.

By alexito

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06-09-2019, 23:18

By tfh

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07-09-2019, 18:00

That's actually the same result I got with NandemoSCC. Not very fond of the result. Especially the sounds in the intro screen and the map don't sound very nice. The in-game music is OK though.
One game that could benefit from SCC (in my opinion) is Bubble Bobble, but I haven't been able to get it working with NandemoSCC. I do like the sound of the Amiga version, which does resemble the SCC somewhat.

By alexito

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07-09-2019, 20:38

Other game PSG2SCC patched.

Kralizec BombJack

Enjoy.

By alexito

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08-09-2019, 21:51

Other game PSG2SCC patched.

Taito Bubble Bobble

PS: REMEMBER if you don't like how it sound you can modify the AUTOEXEC.BAS and choose your own WAVE SAMPLE.

By gdx

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09-09-2019, 02:09

Bubble Bobble is too slow in SCC. You should try with the improved version.
https://msx.org/downloads/bobble-bubble-improvement-patches-...

By alexito

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09-09-2019, 23:41

gdx: but the IPS patch(Bubblebobble) is for the ROM version is too difficult to me include to routines already made for Nyyrikki because we are working in MSX-BASIC/DOS environment.

Crying

sorry my friend I prefer to continue patching games what deserved it with easy environment.

I got an idea what if you include the patches to the DISK Version already PSG2SCC patched.

PS: Borfes and Gallforce are next.

By alexito

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10-09-2019, 20:51

Like I promised here it is:

Borfes and 5 Evil Spirits

Thanks to HAP for the English Translation, Mikasen for the great MEGA16 tool and XTAL SOFT for this MSX game gem.

Enjoy!
PS: I almost forgot to mention but this game require at least 256KB RAM

Now working on Gallforce.

By alexito

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10-09-2019, 22:46

Here it is:

Gallforce

This game use a special way to play the PSG using NOISE CHANNEL a lot so the Music enhance is not the best.

;(

By alexito

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12-09-2019, 15:34

Other PSG2SCC patched game:

ANDOROGYNUS

Enjoy.

Note: This game require 512KB RAM

By alexito

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12-09-2019, 21:33

2 more games using Nyyrikki PSG2SCC:

Vampire Killer DSK Version

Bastard

Enjoy.

By tfh

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13-09-2019, 12:35

alexito wrote:

...using Nyyrikki PSG2SCC:
Vampire Killer DSK Version
...

Vampire Killer with PSG2SCC?
Are you aware of this SCC version of Vampire Killer: https://www.file-hunter.com/MSX/index.php?id=vampirekiller
That version has real SCC support. All the tracks have been rearranged for SCC + PSG, together with a new replayer.

By alexito

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13-09-2019, 20:28

@tfh:Are you aware of this SCC version of Vampire Killer.....

Yes, I know Jan van Valburg works Kudos for him. He did a great job. BTW when I was playing his version I was wondering how good would be Nyyrikki PSG2SCC version and comparing them I like both and if you add a MidiPAC2 with a good Synthesizer (SC88 PRO) the Music Experience is powerful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APcKE8rRwY4

By alexito

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14-09-2019, 02:52

Other PSG2SCC Patched game:

CRAZE

PS: 256KB RAM Required

:)

By alexito

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14-09-2019, 16:20

Next one:

Cross blaim

Note: 128KB Ram Required.

PS: I was thinking how to improve the actual tool using the other 2 channels from the SCC Sound Cartridge ideas are welcome.