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Van Meits

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17-05-2012, 23:00

Ghehe... I only have MWM files... They are loadable in MBWAVE and it will play, but totally deformed as all is set to default because the settings are done on the synths...

Van Latok

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17-05-2012, 23:20

I would love to have good quality sheet music of famous MSX songs Smile

Van anonymous

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17-05-2012, 23:23

Sheet music of the original notes (e.g. an orchestra score of 6 or 9 staves), or 'new' sheet music arranged for - say - piano?

Van AuroraMSX

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18-05-2012, 10:41

MrRudi wrote:

As for writing on MSX in Moonblaster itself, even with MIDI output, I couldn't do it. As the tiniest example why not: I use "grace-notes" in almost everything, that play for 5 milliseconds in front of the actual note...can't do that with a hard 16-steps-a-measure notation like Moonblaster.

But it is possible to get close... Smile

First option is to go Tmp23 for one step and slow down a later one to compensate. But this is a pain in the lower back for composing...
Second option is to play the grace note simultaneously with the actual note, but (1) use an modified instrument for it with short decay and release setting for the envelope, and (2) switch it OFF in the next step. As icing on the cake, you could even put the grace note and the actual note as far apart from each other as you can, channel-wise: grace note on channel 1, actual note on channel 9 or so. Channel 9 is played a tiny bit later than channel 1, but I'm not sure if this is really audible. I did this in several MB tunes and the result is pretty passable.

Isn't this the fun of doing stuff with MSX: trying to either live with the limitations or circumvent them? Running Naked in a Field of Flowers

Van AuroraMSX

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18-05-2012, 10:39

wolf_ wrote:

Sheet music of the original notes (e.g. an orchestra score of 6 or 9 staves), or 'new' sheet music arranged for - say - piano?

The original, I'd say. And as far as I know, openMSX has an option to record the notes played as MIDI data (Manuel, shoot me if I'm wrong Cool), so this should be a piece of Schwarzwalder-Kirschtorte-mit-Sahne Hannibal

(Although, with complex tracked PSG tunes, where 'notes' are played by modulating the EG, this could become a bit more involved)

Van wolf_

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18-05-2012, 11:31

AuroraMSX wrote:

(Although, with complex tracked PSG tunes, where 'notes' are played by modulating the EG, this could become a bit more involved)

The same is true for other chips. It's human interpretation to detect musical elements. Technically, Micro Cabin knew how to create bass drums, toms and other weird quirks by rapidly doing things with pitch, volume etc. For the more advanced songs things should always be interpreted by a musician.

Van Manuel

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18-05-2012, 11:34

AuroraMSX: unfortunately, you will be shot Tongue Unless you implement such a thing, of course.

Van wolf_

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18-05-2012, 11:37


You will be shot!

Van MrRudi

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18-05-2012, 15:44

Yeah I would go for the originals Wolf_ not an arranged version. I have a couple of piano sheets for some MSX tunes but they are very very different from the original ones. @Meits: if you want to send me the MWM files I can turn them into sheets if you don't want to mess with it. Same for your cakewalk files Jor...

In regards to working with limitations, I do see the charm of it (and I have developed for MSX for 10 years so I should), but when it comes to music I'd rather have no limitations at all. None. I want to be able to do whatever is in my head, and in the highest quality possible. Plus I hate tempo changes with a passion, if I can I prevent using them even in midi.

Van AuroraMSX

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18-05-2012, 15:47

Manuel wrote:

AuroraMSX: unfortunately, you will be shot Tongue Unless you implement such a thing, of course.

Scheisse Eek! Ok, I remember seeing an openMSX screen covered with (piano) keyboards each representing one channel of a music chip. And I saw notes being played on that keyboard -- old skool demo style. From there, I gathered it would not be too much effort to save all that into a MIDI file instead of painting it on screen. Hm...
I could definitely implement such a thing, if you're willing to either wait till about 2035 or pay my bills for a couple of months. Oh and you'd need to bail me out of my current project at work, of course. On the plus side, if you take over my work, you get to fly to Japan shortly Wink

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