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Van wolf_

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20-06-2012, 21:26

FM8 ought to be enough for everyone!

Van MsxKun

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20-06-2012, 21:47

wolf_ wrote:

FM8 ought to be enough for everyone!

Can be.. can be.. Smile But it's not free, huh? Crying

Van MrRudi

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17-07-2012, 20:34

FM8 is a very nice synth, but I wouldn't call it "enough for everyone". Seeing what kinds of sounds FM8 holds, I would much rather use my hardware synths for that since they work so much faster =) I only use it now cause well, I don't have hardware synths right now. And I don't think you do your orchestral works with FM8 either Wolf?

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17-07-2012, 20:57

It was a bit of a nod to the incorrect yet culturally ingrown "640KB" remark from uncle Bill. ^_^

What I do with FM8 can be heard here. In context of orchestras, some sounds are quite decent I think. And yes, I'll use 'real' samples for orchestral stuff, but that has also something to do with the nature of some ensembles. When 16 people play the violin, then they all play a wee bit different from each other. Differences in timing, pitch, pressure, while their combined output leads to the sound we've grown used to. I could get roughly the same output from FM8 as my ensemble strings are based on solo strings (can be seen in some of my vids), but that's quite cumbersome to do.. not to mention cucumbersome, not to mention cpu consuming! The sampled orchestras have all this out of the box, in most cases only requiring fast harddisks.

But, for everything else, any kind of synthetic sound, FM8 is king, fast and lightweight! In some cases I do use FM8 alongside orchestral samples. Take wind chimes.. I've made a perfect patch for that in FM8 with which I can just touch/stroke my keyboard as if it was a curtain o' chimes, and all the bells start singing! You just can't get that flexibility from samples (unless you make millions o' recordings).

Van MrRudi

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17-07-2012, 22:01

Agreed...btw, share those windchimes! Sounds good...the best thing about FM8 if you ask me is that it is incredibly light-weight. What I don't like about it is that I am used to using midi-controller 11 on my hardware synths to make volume sweeps, something that FM8 doesnt seem to support, nor can I program that with the MIDI controller thingie. Maybe it's just me...I have not experimented with it that much. But for percussion or any acoustic instrument, I'll use PLAY, for any synth sound I'll use FM8.

Van wolf_

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17-07-2012, 22:32

Uhm, I just linked an operator output level and then the master volume to CC11 (sending out #11 from my tracker), both work perfectly. Just use the MIDI learn (left of the NI-logo), point to something you want to tweak and tweak a controller..

Van MrRudi

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17-07-2012, 22:47

Yeah I tried that but I don't have a 'knob' in SONAR that changes CC11...and then MIDI Learn doesn't pick it up. At least I haven't gotten that to work yet, but perhaps I can create that controller in Sonar. As I said, I really haven't looked into it too much, all my hardware synths worked like that without me doing anything Smile I prefer using CC11 instead of CC7 for volume since I don't want any controller I use during a track to change the actual volume of the instrument....

Van wolf_

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17-07-2012, 22:54

At the master page of FM8, you'll see a list at the right, probably with six items in it. One of them has "7" attached to Master Volume. You can spin that number to 11.. works! (just tested it with my tracker again)

Van MrRudi

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18-07-2012, 00:29

I'll give that a try Smile

Van MrRudi

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18-07-2012, 21:54

Yeah that seems to work, just doesn't do exactly what I want it to do. Perhaps I should explain what I want: in Sonar I have my instrument list with a master volume set for each instrument - for example 87. Then I use CC11 to 'fade in' the instrument by turning the controller from 1 to 127 over a certain amount of time. The 127 on CC11 at that point equals volume 87. If I change the master volume to CC11 it means I have to redo the volume changes everytime I decide to change the actual master volume which kinda sucks.

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