The big gathering of MSX Serial numbers topic

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Van anonymous

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10-11-2013, 22:21

Updated again...

Van Meits

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12-11-2013, 18:01

Found a music module, so I added it...

Come on guys, I know you got some missing numbers for me...

Van Retrofan

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15-11-2013, 10:13

1chipMSX : 04880 (one of the last pieces, batch was 5000 pieces!)

Van Meits

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15-11-2013, 20:02

Thanks, but if that's the logic, it could be save to say that the whole ocm range goes from 00001 to 05000 Tongue

But next to that I found a few old Sony computers on Spanish e-bay from sellers who were so polite to make a pic of the serials. So: updated Smile

I think the puzzlers could already try to find some logic in the Philips numbers. Sony is a totally different story: It's one big mess Running Naked in a Field of Flowers

Van Poltergeist

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17-11-2013, 16:42

Ok, just took my MSX stuff which I have laying around out of the shed...

Sony HB-G900AP: 400243
Philips VG8235/00: FF02621010475
Philips VG8235/00: FF01606013449
Philips NMS1205 Music Module: HK000062
Philips MSX Interface-Modem Cartridge NMS-1250: 10026965000
There is no serial number on my Philips Music Keyboard NMS1160, as is none on the SBC3810 mouse

Van snout

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17-11-2013, 17:22

@Meits, trying to make sense of the Philips serials I found both

NMS 8280/00 FF02731011767
NMS 8280/00 FF02751011767

One of them is bound to be incorrect. I could not find these serials in the topic, can you recall where they came from?

Only sense I can make of it now is that the last 6 digits are plain incrementals.

A hunch I have right now is the following

[????][x][ww][ssssss]

???? - unknown; production location/plant/country/???
y - production year [198x]
ww - production week [never higher than 51 so far]
ssssss - serial number

The resulting table looks somewhat plausible

VG 8020/00	FF03515011186	1985	15	11186
VG 8020/19	FF02535013362	1985	35	13362
VG 8230/00	FF01551010795	1985	51	10795
VG 8020/00	FF05605013560	1986	5	13560
VG 8235/00	FF01606012988	1986	6	12988
VG 8235/00	FF01606013430	1986	6	13430
VG 8235/??	FF01607011503	1986	7	11503
VG 8235/00	FF01607011571	1986	7	11571
VG 8235/19	FF00608010815	1986	8	10815
VG 8235/00	FF02611070755	1986	11	70755
VG 8020/00	FF05620010140	1986	20	10140
VG 8235/20	FF00632042621	1986	32	42621
VG 8235/20	FF00632042727	1986	32	42727
VG 8235/20	FF00633040355	1986	33	40355
VG 8235/20	FF00635040203	1986	35	40203
VG 8020/20	FF00637042739	1986	37	42739
NMS 8220/16	FF00638040186	1986	38	40186
VG 8020/20	FF00638043667	1986	38	43667
NMS 8220/00	FF01641040590	1986	41	40590
NMS 8250/00	FF00645004452	1986	45	4452
NMS 8250/00	FF00645004453	1986	45	4453
NMS 8250/00	FF00645004705	1986	45	4705
NMS 8250/00	FF00648005757	1986	48	5757
VG 8235/20	FF02709030517	1987	9	30517
VG 8020/20	FF00711031574	1987	11	31574
VG 8020/20	FF00712030216	1987	12	30216
NMS 8250/00	FF00714009672	1987	14	9672
NMS 8245/00	JM00726031591	1987	26	31591
NMS 8255/00	FF00727011546	1987	27	11546
NMS 8255/00	FF00727014407	1987	27	14407
NMS 8250/00	FF00727016242	1987	27	16242
NMS 8245/00	JM00728030291	1987	28	30291
NMS 8245/00	JM00728030588	1987	28	30588
NMS 8280/00	FF02731011767	1987	31	11767
NMS 8245/16	JM00731031447	1987	31	31447
NMS 8245/00	JM00732030123	1987	32	30123
NMS 8245/00	JM00732031175	1987	32	31175
NMS 8255/00	FF00739019892	1987	39	19892
NMS 8255/00	FF00739020480	1987	39	20480
NMS 8255/00	FF00739020886	1987	39	20886
NMS 8280/16	FF01736000887	1987	39	887
VG 8020/40	JM00743030698	1987	43	30698
NMS 8280/00	FF02751011660	1987	51	11660
NMS 8280/00	FF02751011767	1987	51	11767
NMS 8280/00	FF02751011773	1987	51	11773
NMS 8280/00	FF02751012175	1987	51	12175
NMS 8280/00	FF02751012244	1987	51	12244
VG 8020/40	JM00802032182	1988	2	32182

With the last entry being the odd one out. VG8020's being produced in 1988? Why? For which market?

Van Poltergeist

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17-11-2013, 17:44

Week 2 of 1988 is not really that far behind week 43 of 1987. It's only 8 weeks. Also, philips made a change after the NMS8220 was released, so the VG-8020 would look like the MSX2 counterpart.

http://www.msx.org/photoshoots/brussel-2002/philips-vg-8020-...

I really don't know when they start producing that thing, but it might be catered more toward emerging markets or something like that..

Van Manuel

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17-11-2013, 17:48

Good one! VG 8010/00: SF01450115891 we know that the VG8000 and VG8010 were made in France. So perhaps SF01 is the French factory. Any more people with such machines?

Van Meits

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17-11-2013, 19:28

@Snout.
What's not in this topic is from clear en unclear pictures scattered over the internet... It is possible that I found one of those serials on a razor sharp picture and the other on a barely readable one which I had to enhance to be able to read it...
Which one do you guess is the wrong one? That one should be deleted... If not sure, both should be deleted... Can't have doubts here...

Van Maggoo

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17-11-2013, 21:03

Poltergeist wrote:

Week 2 of 1988 is not really that far behind week 43 of 1987. It's only 8 weeks. Also, philips made a change after the NMS8220 was released, so the VG-8020 would look like the MSX2 counterpart.

http://www.msx.org/photoshoots/brussel-2002/philips-vg-8020-...

I really don't know when they start producing that thing, but it might be catered more toward emerging markets or something like that..

All the Philips MSX1 sold in France had the Black casing (and the French Azerty Keyboard). The same goes for French VG-8000 and VG8010. It's not a later model, they always were sold with the black case. I have no idea why they made a specific case only for France. Perhaps it was to "Match" the color case of the VG5000 which was sold and manufactured in France at the time. The Philips Printers (VWxxx) were compatible with both the VG5000 and MSX and also had that same black color.

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