Petition to fix sprites on Valis on MSX2.

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Door Paulbrk

Hero (611)

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28-11-2012, 20:03

Hi guys, long time ago I finished Valis Fantasm Soldier on MSX1.

All of you know that the game has a very serious problem with enemy sprites, the main character spends 3 sprites for her, leting only 1 sprite left for the enemies. I think that the game has not a sprite fickering routine for the enemies.

It is possible to patch the game for MSX2 SC4 with 8 sprites use? I think we can have:

* Much clearer enemy representation and a little fickering routine.

* An inproved color palette for MSX2.

* Maybe smooth scroll on MSX2+ ( It is really a hard improvement, but the game will gain a lot)

Thanks in advance.

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Van PingPong

Prophet (3556)

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30-11-2012, 00:28

Valis msx1 sprites are looking bad expecially because wrong color selection

Van Paulbrk

Hero (611)

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30-11-2012, 09:12

The enemy color can be changed to a much better color.

Van PingPong

Prophet (3556)

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30-11-2012, 15:30

@paulbrk: unfortunately, switching to sc4 is not so simple: the different sat layout and the need to move 16 bytes (for color) instead of 1 byte require more CPU time. so all depends on the time the cpu has left. it can be done by searching the routine address the jumping to an alternate one if there is enough space left on RAM/ROM.

a better and more expensive thing would be to replace the entire sprite set to take advantage of multicolor and ORed sprites.

Van LeandroCorreia

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30-11-2012, 17:56

PingPong wrote:

Valis msx1 sprites are looking bad expecially because wrong color selection

I'll drink to that! I won't say that Valis enemies are the worst MSX color decision simply because Fantasy Zone also exists.

Van PingPong

Prophet (3556)

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30-11-2012, 20:46

LeandroCorreia wrote:
PingPong wrote:

Valis msx1 sprites are looking bad expecially because wrong color selection

I'll drink to that! I won't say that Valis enemies are the worst MSX color decision simply because Fantasy Zone also exists.

Valis have worst sprites than F.Z. in my opinion

Van LeandroCorreia

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30-11-2012, 20:51

PingPong wrote:

Valis have worst sprites than F.Z. in my opinion

Maybe you're right, but at least Valis' sceneries are impressive. Fantasy Zone's sceneries have awful color combinations.

Van Huey

Prophet (2657)

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30-11-2012, 20:58

I agree. Paulbrk should improve valis to screen4.

Tongue

Van LeandroCorreia

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30-11-2012, 21:01

Seriously, though, I'd not care if Valis was converted to Screen 4, but if the game had the main character sprites included in the flickering (and maybe if that sprite flickering routine that improved sprites visibility was used), Valis would be more visually acceptable.

Van DanySoft

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30-11-2012, 22:12

Too boring this game Valis!

I do not know if it works in screen 4, but could also be useful for other games MSX1! Tongue

DanySoft

Van Paulbrk

Hero (611)

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03-12-2012, 10:59

Valis is a cool game but all the people know that has a big bug with sprites, need's someone that changes the sprite mode to MSX2, to use 8 sprites.

I am not a coder, I am only a graphic designer and a little musician. I wrote the sugestion for somebody, there is some people fixing and improving MSX games:
Msx games improved

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