MSX Nijmegen 2014 - reminder

MSX Nijmegen 2014 - reminder

van Jorito op 19-01-2014, 15:51
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Next Saturday, the 25th of January the annual Dutch MSX fair in Nijmegen will be held. Apart from the listed stand holders there will also be an MSX themed quiz again and plenty of opportunity to catch up with fellow MSX users, followed by the traditional dinner afterwards. So make sure you go to the MSX fair in Nijmegen if you're able!

Here's a list of the participants:

  • openMSX Team - Demonstration of the current developing version of openMSX, all Laserdisc games, the latest developments and the debugger GUI. Also we'll be showing openMSX running on Android, GCW Zero and the Dingoo A320.
  • Bas Kornalijnslijper - Repairs, expansions, cables, parts, buy and sale of second hand MSX hardware.
  • WORP3 - Sale and promotion of the MIDI-PAC, showing the progress of our Orbit project and on request, displaying our Super Nintendo SD-Snatcher demo.
  • MSX Resource Center - Sale of MSX T-Shirts, Girlies and MSX mints. Yum!
  • The New Image - Demonstration of pseudoMSX. Sale of MSX merchandise and promotion of TNI software.
  • Raymond Hoogerdijk - Sale of MSX books, magazines, hardware and software.
  • MSX Club West-Friesland - Promotion and sale of MSX equipment, including books, magazines, software and hardware.
  • Bitwise - Distribution and demonstration of MSX games.
  • MSX Vriendenclub Mariënberg - Promotion of MSX Vriendenclub Mariënberg.
  • SymbOS - SymbOS demonstration/promotion.
  • MIF & Misc. stuff - Demo of real-time conversion from webcam to screen 2-12 on PC, screen 2 and 4 movies on MSX (maybe with sound...), demo of GMRUN and other MSX dev stuff.
  • TriloByte - Demonstration of TriloTracker music tracker. 'Hands on' with the new tracker and get help on getting started.
  • Nowind - Programming and fun with a Nowind interface.
  • Laurens Holst - Demonstration of the Glass Z80 assembler and a MIDI project.
  • Zemmix NEO - Erik Luppes shows his Zemmix NEO and plays some games.
  • SuperSoniqs - Sale of Modulon slotexpander, Playsoniq, MSX Audio expansion and demonstration of other SuperSoniqs products.

The fair is held in Wijkcentrum Hatert, Couwenbergstraat 22, Nijmegen, directions on how to get there can be found on the MSX fair Nijmegen 2014 website.

Relevant link: MSX fair Nijmegen 2014

Reacties (72)

Van Manuel

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19-01-2014, 16:43

Entrance is now at the front end again, as all building refurbishment is finished. So, go in at the front, see the photo on the fair website. The entrance is in the corner on the right wall.

The back side is not open.

Van Repair-Bas

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19-01-2014, 17:42

Cash money for your msx hardware, not working also welcome.
Please sent me an email or take it with you to nijmegen.

Van FiXato

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19-01-2014, 18:33

Wish I could attend, but as instant teleporters are still not a real thing, I'll be stuck in Norway. Smile
Make it a wonderful day people!

Van KdL

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19-01-2014, 22:15

like+1 and good fair at all participants! Smile

Van luppie

Paladin (854)

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19-01-2014, 23:30

Looking forward to it. Hope the Chinese is a good 1 Big smile

Van Manuel

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20-01-2014, 16:20

2 new booths have been registered, just in time!

Van anonymous

incognito ergo sum (109)

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20-01-2014, 17:48

Updated the list! Smile

Van ray2day

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20-01-2014, 17:50

We are there!

Van BokanoiD

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20-01-2014, 18:33

Looking forward to it. I'll be bringing a NMS8250 with a bust(?) disk drive for anyone who wants it (trade me for a beer or something) Smile

Van edoz

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20-01-2014, 20:00

To bad Sunrise is not there.. because i have a broke MP3 card that needs some repair Wink or a new one Big smile

Van AuroraMSX

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20-01-2014, 22:15

Can't make it to the fair this year -- bummer...

Van Manuel

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21-01-2014, 17:31

Bummer indeed!

Note for admins: another booth was just added.

Van edoz

Prophet (2129)

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21-01-2014, 18:12

Cool!!

Van NYYRIKKI

Enlighted (5256)

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21-01-2014, 20:06

First I thought I can't come. Now it seems that I could come, but there is no flights anymore... Damn...

Van Manuel

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21-01-2014, 20:48

That sucks heavily!

Van Jorito

Mr. Ambassadors (1758)

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21-01-2014, 21:32

In typical NYYRIKKI fashion you could opt to come by rowboat? Tongue

Still, pity you can't come. Hope you can catch a flight after all!

Van marce

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21-01-2014, 21:33

A multiplatform event will be held the same day in Mallorca: http://retromallorca.com

You know, better late than never? So we will be celebrating MSX's 30th anniversary (31?) near the university.

And I thought we can do some kind of event brotherhood. What do you think?

Van Manuel

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21-01-2014, 22:03

What exactly do you mean with 'event brotherhood'?

Van marce

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21-01-2014, 22:07

Maybe a videoconference connection? Some chatting?

Van Manuel

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21-01-2014, 22:24

Sure, but I don't have the means to do that... but if someone is willing to help realizing that, I'd be happy to support that.

Van poke-1,170

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22-01-2014, 01:07

oh count me in Smile dinner as well if it's not too late yet !

Van Louthrax

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22-01-2014, 10:56

NYYRIKKI wrote:

First I thought I can't come. Now it seems that I could come, but there is no flights anymore... Damn...

That's a bummer Sad !

Van TheWhipMaster

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23-01-2014, 03:43

Damm it I won t be able to make it I had to reschedule my European trip for the 31st Crying

Van Manuel

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23-01-2014, 15:37

And now also SuperSoniqs is added to the list.

Van raymond

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23-01-2014, 19:31

NYYRIKKI wrote:

First I thought I can't come. Now it seems that I could come, but there is no flights anymore... Damn...

If you live in Europe, you can always start driving towards Nijmegen Wink

Van msd

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23-01-2014, 19:40

No eating after the fair?

Van edoz

Prophet (2129)

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24-01-2014, 11:23

Cool that SuperSoniqs is there! They make very nice hardware Wink

About hardware : Is there someone that wants to sell a working MP3 card to me ?
(or can repair, on the fair, the one I own ?)

Van o.geerdink

Hero (526)

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24-01-2014, 11:31

Be there or be commodore enthousiast

Van FiXato

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24-01-2014, 13:51

o.geerdink wrote:

Be there or be commodore enthousiast

And what is wrong with being a Commodore enthusiast? Luckily the HCC usergroups think differently: http://commodore.hcc.nl/events/commodore-msx-atari-sinclair-...

Van BokanoiD

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24-01-2014, 16:31

Can I be both? Thanks. Big smile

Van Meits

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24-01-2014, 20:35

I just heard I'll be there... Darn... oO

Van Jorito

Mr. Ambassadors (1758)

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24-01-2014, 20:48

That makes you not a Commodore enthusiast I guess Wink

Van syn

Paragon (1908)

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24-01-2014, 20:52

Very nice last minute additions to the standholders list!! Big smile Looking forward to it already!

Btw anyone from Amsterdam area who plans on driving there and got a spot free in his/her car??

Van Grauw

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24-01-2014, 23:43

I hope people interested in audio are coming Smile.

If anyone can bring a Bit² μ.Pack (for testing), that’d be nice!

Van NYYRIKKI

Enlighted (5256)

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25-01-2014, 00:55

raymond wrote:
NYYRIKKI wrote:

First I thought I can't come. Now it seems that I could come, but there is no flights anymore... Damn...

If you live in Europe, you can always start driving towards Nijmegen Wink

When you read this, you are propably already just as wasted that I am, you have already seen SymbOS 2.1, TriloTracker, the "MSX forever"-musicvideo about how real life prevents us from spending time with MSX... and you are just having fun... Yes: I would like to be there...

Van o.geerdink

Hero (526)

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25-01-2014, 09:53

That commedore meeting is 5 km from where i live ill check it out got a c64

Van o.geerdink

Hero (526)

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25-01-2014, 09:55

I brought my spare ocm to sell or trade so if anyone needs one....

Van Meits

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25-01-2014, 10:26

I almost finish ed the first part of the trip... Very weird tot be on my wat tot a fair again... Last ons is about nine years Lago al ready...
Cu Guus zoon...

Van Meits

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25-01-2014, 10:28

Damn Dutch spelling checker on this tablet

Van Prodatron

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25-01-2014, 18:31

Back home! That was a very nice meeting again! Thanks so much to Manuel for the organisation! I enjoyed it a lot, was great to see you all again, what a pity, that it's only once a year...

Van syn

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25-01-2014, 19:04

Still in the train on my way home, but yeah it was fun... had a good time talking with various developers and other people. See you all next year or sooner Smile

Van Daemos

Paragon (1669)

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25-01-2014, 19:31

Back home and done eating Smile

This was a great fair. It was very nice to meet you all.

Van Grauw

Enlighted (7967)

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25-01-2014, 19:46

I had fun Smile.

Van Meits

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25-01-2014, 20:04

I'll edit and upload my cam's recording asap... IF it worked out fine that is Tongue

Van WORP3

Paladin (803)

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25-01-2014, 21:11

It was a very great fair, thanks !

Van edoz

Prophet (2129)

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25-01-2014, 21:26

It was a very nice meeting and there was a lot of MSX activity ! Thanks Manuel for the great organistation!
Thanks for the new slot expander!! (Modulon) and the MSX audio thing Wink
It was also nice to see the Mario Game! It was running on my MSX 2+ on 7 Mhz ! Those new levels are super!

Van luppie

Paladin (854)

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25-01-2014, 22:10

Nijmegen was great. Nice to see you all IRL.
Already attending my next party.

Tnx Manuel for the organization, you did a great job.

Van msd

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25-01-2014, 22:11

it was another fun day!

Van turbor

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25-01-2014, 22:23

Had a great time. Another great fair day, and again (as usual) way too short...

Van Jorito

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25-01-2014, 22:28

Nice to see some interesting developments and catch up with people again. Very fun day, enough stuff to do and see and also a nice bar area Wink

Van Timmy

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25-01-2014, 22:37

Hi! I'm new here.

Just got home from Nijmegen too. It was strange to actually hear people talking about the MSX.

During the dinner I've promised to talk about some of my C related adventures on the MSX, but I'm exhausted right now.

Next time. Smile

Van Huey

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25-01-2014, 23:21

Had a great day today. But reading the comments here I have missed some people I'd really would have liked to talk.

Perhaps an idea to make it a bit more of a socials meeting with nametags next time?

Van Latok

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26-01-2014, 00:25

All this msx activity.... I have a good feeling about this edition!

It was nice seeing you all again and manuel, of course, thank you for everything Smile

Van Meits

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26-01-2014, 11:32

Here's about two hours of video... My SD card went full without me noticing it... Did have to change the battery somewhere in the middle though and had some serious battle with the auto-focus (which was switched off) in the first clip...

Van syn

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26-01-2014, 11:52

nice vids thanks for sharing Wink

Van anonymous

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26-01-2014, 12:20

It would be nice if the layout of the room wasn't roughly the same every year. One side of the room is always very quiet compared to the other side. It's not fair to the standholders there, especially the smaller ones at the back.

Anyway, we figured out why the StreetFighter 2 demonstration wasn't working. Basically a technicality that only pseudoMSX emulates correctly and both BlueMSX and openMSX get wrong, which the SF2 ROM depended on...
This is what you get when you develop on buggy emulators Eek!

Van Lord_Zett

Paladin (807)

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26-01-2014, 13:02

a social meeting halfway the year is a good idea. talking bringing your msx. Or like i do and some other groups using the Bonami fair to olso meet new ppl.

Van snout

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26-01-2014, 18:17

Had a great day yesterday, although time went so quickly. Didn't even talk with half the people I wanted to talk to. There just wasn't enough time. Big thanks to Manuel for organizing yet another succesful edition of Nijmegen!

I agree with GuyveR800 on the room layout. Something completely different would be nice in 2015. Then again, all stand holders could have commented on the layout before the fair. I suppose most (if not all) of them didn't. We all have a role in this.

As for developing on buggy emulators: I wouldn't exactly call openMSX and blueMSX buggy, they get the job done in the vast majority of MSX software. The more we push MSX to its limits, the more likely bugs are to show up. But they have to show up first before they can be fixed.

I personally prefer testing on the real thing, can't wait to finally get my NoWind set up. Other than that I don't see how developers have a choice right now, seeing that pseudoMSX isn't available anywhere afaik.

Van anonymous

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26-01-2014, 19:52

It was really great this year. Nice to talk to everyone but indeed, so little time. Synthesix is a very interesting project. The quiz by Ray & Ray was fun as always. Bought a tapedeck and some tape games. The webcam digitalisation on MSX thingie was cool. And I ended up being quite impressed with MoonSound Music Studio.

Thanks to Manuel for again organising this great event! And ofcourse to all participants and visitors.

Van anonymous

incognito ergo sum (109)

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26-01-2014, 21:22

If it were up to me, pseudoMSX would already be enjoying a public release, but not all team members agree on its readiness.

There are two kinds of emulators bugs:
1. MSX software does not work because of an emulator bug
2. an emulator bug that causes software to appear to be working, but won't work on a real MSX

In the early days of emulators (not just MSX, but other systems as well), the second was a huge problem, because developers would release software that would not work on the real hardware. And emulators would continue to be wrong because that software should run on it, right?!

Eventually most emulator authors wised up and started emulating the correct hardware behaviour, causing some software that never worked on real hardware to start failing on their emulators too.

So "the amount of software that works on an emulator" is a really poor measure of emulator quality. It is always the software that DOESN'T WORK on real hardware that is the true test of an emulator's quality.

In other words, making stuff work is easy, but making stuff fail accurately is hard.

Van hap

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26-01-2014, 21:29

GuyveR800 is completely right, There's no need to 'defend' emulation regarding this.

Van luppie

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31-01-2014, 22:07

Where is the Photoshoot link Big smile It's almost a week ago that the Fair was in Nijmegen Tongue

(I have to admit, I took my camera with me, but the Fair was so good, that I forgot to use my camera)

Van snout

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31-01-2014, 22:12

@luppie - I completely forgot as well, but received some pictures from turboR earlier today (thanks!). Manuel, I saw you taking pictures as well. Would you like to send them so that I can make a best-of-both-worlds photoshoot?

btw, still have to publish that TYME photoshoot as well. Waiting for a batch of pictures for that one as well...

Van JohnHassink

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01-02-2014, 05:46

Almost forgot, but I found a medal from the quiz on the parking lot. Any quiz winner that is missing his medal? I have it.

Van Meits

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01-02-2014, 12:03

Does it say whice price it is? I got them lucky bastards on tape Smile...

Ehr, you all do

Van Manuel

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01-02-2014, 17:06

snout, I can send them tomorrow evening, preferably via IRC. So when I see you I'll send the stuff on IRC.

Van MSXArnhem

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03-02-2014, 15:03

I crossed the 'oversteek' (the new bridge north of Nijmegen) and visited the MSX fair as well. It was vey nice seeing so many MSX computer and all these people still enjoying their hobby.

I especially want to thank Raymond (Ray2day - we did not introduce ourselves, but I recognized him from the photo on his website) for demonstrating the Megaflashrom with SD. I'm realy going to order one of these on short notice....

Van Grauw

Enlighted (7967)

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03-02-2014, 15:57

I ordered one Smile. The extra PSG in it is kinda cool too.

Van Meits

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04-02-2014, 13:02

Got it... Never tried the extra PSG oO

Van luppie

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14-02-2014, 23:21

Van Grauw

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15-02-2014, 13:32

Link doesn’t work…

Van snout

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15-02-2014, 13:46

Not yet, that is Wink Thx for the reminder, luppie. Hope to get to posting the photoshoot this weekend...

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