DSK-PRO 10.0 Don't Mess With Me Again Edition

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Van Daemos

Paragon (1952)

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09-01-2016, 23:14

too bad I just brought back some uberprotected disks to someone I would have loved to give this tool a try.

Van cbsfox

Champion (379)

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10-01-2016, 00:17

Fastcopy is not just a simple copier? What else is it?

I used it on my Sony XV configured with WD2793 chipset.
It was fast as DSK-PRO. It copies a full disk in 1:35 seconds.

But as I said before, DSK-PRO is not just a copier. It's much, much more.
1 - DISK COPIER
2 - DISK FORMATTER
3 - TRACK ANALYZER
4 - DISK ZAPPER
5 - DISK IMAGING TOOL

We can not compare DSK-PRO with the simple FASTCOPY 3.0.

Van cbsfox

Champion (379)

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10-01-2016, 00:28

Thanks Pippo.

Everybody from europe are so boring like these guys trying to create discussions that don't have any point?
Come on gentlemen, even if FASTCOPY 3.0 is faster (here it isn't), what is the point?
Congratulations to the Alexander Wurs for his good job in FASTCOPY 3.0. But we can not compare that simple copier to DSK-PRO. And I don't want to make comparisions. It is good in what it was supposed to do.

DSK-PRO is ANOTHER tool and has lots of features. Lets talk about DSK-PRO and all its features and incompatibilities.
We can all test the tool and find possible bugs.

Isn't it better than make comparisions to FASTCOPY 3.0? Come on! Some people never grow up.

Regards
Marcos Daniel

Van syn

Prophet (2065)

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10-01-2016, 00:46

well..

You said dskpro is the fastest copier in the world. So ofcourse people are going to compare it with existing tools...

If I say I am the fastest runner in the world, ofcourse people will want to know how fast I run, and how fast other people run, and compare the results.

Van cbsfox

Champion (379)

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10-01-2016, 00:51

OK, but lets try to talk just about DSK-PRO and its features and incompatibilities.
We can make a better tool.

Lets talk about the Track Information, the Track Map, the Full Disk Zapper, the disk copier of protected and unprotected disks, the possibility to create images (DSK and PDI) from the disks (protected and unprotected).
I think it is a better idea.

Send me the possible bugs and I will try to fix it.

Regards
Marcos

Van Pippo

Champion (509)

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10-01-2016, 09:07

To Cbsfox:
You must have patience.
They'll understand.
I hope you'll continue this great work with this very beautiful and useful copier.
Don't be discouraged!

Van Meits

Scribe (6446)

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10-01-2016, 11:08

cbsfox wrote:

Fastcopy is not just a simple copier? What else is it?

I used it on my Sony XV configured with WD2793 chipset.
It was fast as DSK-PRO. It copies a full disk in 1:35 seconds.

But as I said before, DSK-PRO is not just a copier. It's much, much more.
1 - DISK COPIER
2 - DISK FORMATTER
3 - TRACK ANALYZER
4 - DISK ZAPPER
5 - DISK IMAGING TOOL

We can not compare DSK-PRO with the simple FASTCOPY 3.0.

If I compare the speed of Aleste and Fray you can't say Fray wins because it supports both FM and PSG at the same time, it's possible to save to different media and there are puzzle elements in it. It's the speed that's compared.
Fray is slower in scrolling and you are slower in copying in normal mode.

Van ro

Scribe (4479)

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10-01-2016, 15:14

Hai there,

First of all I'd like to say DSP-PRO looks like a fab tool! Concrats to the coders of this great piece of byte-work. Any original MSX software deserves positive attention. A good disk tool is always welcome.

In the past I've used various tools like Improve, DiskDoctor, Formula and FastCopy. The latter being a true piece of code by Alex Wulms (Xelasoft). To be honest, I though Alex was one of the best coders around. The things he did were amazing!

Now, back in the days we used to bash ego-trippers. Saying you were good at somethings, and you proofed it, was okay. But saying you were better just made us call you an ass-hole. Simply as that.

Saying DSK-PRO is faster than FastCopy, and even calling FC "simple" make this discussion alive. Meits did the tests and showed us the results. Perhaps you could do the same? I'm not saying Meits is right (he usually isn't, you see. Thaz becuz there can only be one; and that's me. no discussion Tongue )

Having said that, I'll rip some more disks using DSK-PRO. it's amazing!

Van Grauw

Ascended (10066)

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10-01-2016, 15:43

Seeing how someone else can do it better is always a good challenge to improve my code Smile.

Van cbsfox

Champion (379)

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11-01-2016, 02:52

What people don't understand is that FastCopy 3.0 is an excellent disk copier and formatter. Nothing else.
It's just that.

Does it work with MSX1 computers with 40 columns? No
Does it identify the chipset automatically? No
Does it have a digital certificate (Checksum check)? No
Does it create images of protected and unprotected disks? No
Does it copy protected disks? No
Does it have a track analyzer? No
Does it have a full disk zapper? No
Does it have a real time operation GUI? No

Does DSK-PRO do all these things? Yes

Is FastCopy an excellent copier of unprotected disks? YES
Is FastCopy faster than DSK-PRO copying unprotected disks? Here it isn't. But I don't care if it is or not.
Is Alexander Wurs a fucking good programmer? Yes

Lets assume that FastCopy 3.0 is faster. End of discussion? Thanks GOD!

Can Fastcopy be compared with DSK-PRO? No fucking way. We can not compare a Ferrari with a Fusca.

DSK-PRO is a much more complex tool. It identifies the chipset automatically, it works with all chipsets together if you attach more than 1 interface to the computer, it has a full real time GUI, it creates protected an unprotected images of the disks, it copies protected an unprotected disks, it has a full disk zapper, it has a really fucking good track information.

Is it necessary to say more? So lets end this discussion with FASTCOPY 3.0 being the winner of copying unprotected disks, and move on trying to help me to improve DSK-PRO to fix bugs.

Is it too much to ask?

Now, please, test the tool and send me the incompatibilities and bugs you may find.

Regards
Marcos Daniel

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