Aleste 2 (rom version) area-start issue (area 5)

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Door Pippo

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11-02-2017, 15:14

Hello RicBit,
I inform you about an issue in "Aleste 2 Rom v.8".
When the game must enter in Area-5, a disk request appears and the Rom freezes.
I think, a similar issue, in other parts of the game is present.

Please, can you kindly fix the Rom properly?

Thank you very much for your kindness and collaboration. Smile

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Van ren

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11-02-2017, 15:27

@Pippo Instead of opening a new topic, you could (or should) have posted this here. (search = friend)

Van ricbit

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11-02-2017, 16:22

@Pippo Did you watch the entire movie between area 4 and area 5? Or did you press something?

Van ricbit

Champion (437)

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11-02-2017, 16:30

@Pippo I could not reproduce, can you please give more details? Ex: machine used / emulator used; whether it was hard or easy mode, which weapon did you choose?

Van Pippo

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11-02-2017, 20:01

Excuse me, Ren.
Unfortunately, I didn't remember that.
Please, excuse me again.

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Thank you, RicBit, for your kind reply.
The game works fine, but if you want to start from Area-5 directly, the Rom freezes.

I used BlueMsx emulator in Msx-2+ mode.
In the game, I selected Weapon-4, but I don't know if the mode was easy or hard.

Please, can you kindly fix the Rom properly?

Van ricbit

Champion (437)

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12-02-2017, 00:10

Is there a way to start from area 5 directly? I didn't knew that, what should I press?

Van JohnHassink

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12-02-2017, 00:36

If you get to the weapon select screen (works only if you have come from the sound test), then [SELECT] + cursors up and down should allow you to choose the starting area.

Van sd_snatcher

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12-02-2017, 00:53

Nice! That tip should be listed on generation-MSX! Big smile
BTW, this trick only seems to work if you boot disk-C. It doesn't seem necessary to enter the music-mode.

A lot of people also don't know this: while the game is stopped, it's possible to hold SELECT and press the cursor keys to "setadjust" the screen.

And by just pressing SELECT without holding it will toggle the sprite animations on and off.

Van JohnHassink

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12-02-2017, 04:37

sd_snatcher wrote:

Nice! That tip should be listed on generation-MSX! Big smile

Well, about the Generation-MSX entry, I see it for the first time now, and there are some other things which I spot.

Generation-MSX wrote:

Press during the title screen SELECT and keep it pressed to enter the Soundtest mode

I don't think this is correct. It works only when booting one of the game disks.

Generation-MSX wrote:

You can use the STOP key to adjust the speed of your ship.

Not 100% untrue, but badly worded. The [STOP] key is simply pause, and then you can modify the speed of your ship, and do the things with [SELECT] that you (sd_snatcher) mentioned (which I, regarding the sprite animations, always found to be pretty cool to look at, by the way).

On a sidenote, Zanac-Ex also allows you to fiddle with the adjustment of the screen in pause mode in the exact same way, but it unfortunately hasn't got the sprite animation showcase option. You can play as much as you want with the color palette if you push [SELECT] + [STOP] simultaneously, though.
While we mention Zanac-Ex, that game also has some nice cheats that aren't mentioned on its Generation-MSX page, either.
For instance:

  • At the GAME START/CONTINUE select screen, hold down the numeral key of the B-weapon number you wish to start the game with, then make your choice. Pretty cool, huh?
  • Or (and this works for Zanac as well), don't fire at all a the start of the game, until the first 'spy' appears. Shoot it with your B-weapon, and it turns into a Randar (extra life).
  • Another one that works in both: just crash the 'blocks' when you're invincible. If one of them holds a 'P', you get the maximum upgrade (at least, when we're disregarding the 'colored face bonus' which doubles all your weapons)
  • Play the game unto area 2. Switch off your MSX (just as Big Boss told you to do). Switch it on again, holding the joystick in south-west direction. Choose "CONTINUE", and you'll start off in area 10
  • Keep catching B-weapon 6 upgrades. After a while (won't be until area 2 if you do it from the start, and yes, the game will get pissed off at first, ofcourse), your next shot will turn all the enemies on screen into Randars!
  • IIRC, area 4, 5 and 6 have one elve, and area 10 has two. If you touch it, it will instantly destroy the next base you face. You can't take them to the next area, so use them before that time
  • Keep your eyes peeled for the brightly colored 'faces'. They look like the 'normal' faces that yield the yellow 'smart bombs' (of which the more happy looking ones will become warps), but even more cheerful and colorful. I think they don't appear until area 3. Shoot them, and your A-weapon will be doubled (really nice if that was already at maximum) and your B-weapon will be maxed out
  • Not useful, but interesting: when you lose your last ship, hold down [SELECT] before the game over tune starts. You'll hear a totally different jingle
  • Oh, and the warps... the warps...
  • Why do I still know these things from the top of my head? What am I doing with my life? Sigh... ;)

Concerning the speed settings in Aleste 2 - I've noticed that a lot of people don't seem to know that the game allows you to do this. I actually prefer playing on speed 7; one step above the default.

Generation-MSX wrote:

Press after finishing the game 'continue' you will get a bonuslevel, after that you will enter level 8.

This must be a mix-up with Aleste, for which this is true. Aleste 2 will ask for the demo disk after you have beaten the final boss (no other disks accepted), then show the ending, and then loop back to the opening as if you had booted the demo disk.

sd_snatcher wrote:

BTW, this trick only seems to work if you boot disk-C. It doesn't seem necessary to enter the music-mode.

Hey, you're totally right. I must either have remembered it wrong, or my confusion lasted for at least 25 years. :)

Van Pippo

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12-02-2017, 08:53

Dear RicBit,
with all those information, please, can you start from Area-5 and fix the Rom? Smile

Van rderooy

Hero (580)

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12-02-2017, 10:42

I have cleaned up the Aleste 2 tips on GenMSX. Let me know if you see any further issues.
http://www.generation-msx.nl/software/compile/aleste-2/cheat...

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