if we stay united
You can't expect eceryone else to buy in to some pet project they don't want just because someone decided to stamp MSX on it.
Everyone currently using MSX does so because they enjoy the old platform and everyone who wants to move on to something new have already done so decades ago.
On the Amiga side of things projects like this have happend over and over and the result is always the same.
Any new hardware that isn't 100% backwards compatible will only fracture the current userbase and won't bring back those who left.
When the MSX started, it was a project very similar to what we have today. MSX was born from a Japanese consortium to have a standard of technologies and access to information compatible between all machines of the standard.
I didn't see "video game" written in the standard declaration.
"Amiga..."
Amiga? my eyes are completely on the opinion of Japanese users, who as I said recently on Twitter:
"The direction in which MSX will go should be organized and led by the Japanese users, who pioneered the standard (with other international users giving their opinion to help)".
...but this is my personal view.
And obviously, Amiga, C64, Spectrum, etc etc etc are all just a distant blip on Japan's technology radar. Where recently the X68000 returned to its domestic market and had expressive sales, and many user comments, which, unsurprisingly, manage to coexist among Japanese computer standards and invest adequately in the proposal that each one positions and offers resources.
...the point is that together we can at least give a chance to change something, either for worse or for better, but at least not to let it become just another old game platform. Because, as the creator said, the MSX3 will have games, but games won't be the focus."
If I'm not mistaken, Nishi already stated that the MSX3 will be backwards compatible, but I don't have the slightest idea of the details, and honestly, that's what worries me the least at the moment. I'm excited by the possibility of the new content.
in my view, in other words: "Just follow Japan, and everything will be alright."
[...] I'm excited by the possibility of the new content.
If you are not interested in games, what kind of content do you expect from a MSX3? And more importantly, what kind of content that you can already have on a modern PC?
Imho, what keeps the MSX alive today is above all the games. Made by game (and technical challenge) lovers for game lovers. MSXdev is a good illustration of what motivates the community to continue using MSX (and the important role of the non-Japanese community in the fact that this machine is still alive 40 years later).
I have nothing against Nishi and I think it's great that he goes through with his ideas, but I don't see what MSX3 will bring to the MSX community: neither the game lovers, nor the developers who have fun with the strong constraints of the old MSX. It's not a question of "retro" (even if there is usually at least a small part of nostalgia), but of the pleasure to "sublimate the constraints".
With his modern Linux machine emulating an MSX, I just don't see what pleasure he could take in creating applications on it. At least, not more than creating directly on a modern PC (with all the opportunities that this offers to diffuse our creations).
The MSX3 content I hope it has, is re-learning something new in the same way that I started discovering things on the MSX1, including games obviously.
New commands, new equipment and devices accessible to MSX in basic., "Internet Of Things" from a point of view different from the standard "Windows-Google-Apple", new "online" games of MSX, learning something about portability, touch screen, super computing, to maybe be useful for new games or continuations of old successes, can exist under this new and advanced point of view.
I keep saying that, we must have faith, and believe in the convictions that brought us together here. We must together take the next step, let Japanese users lead the way, and go into the unknown future, without fear of what may come, with all responsabilty of whatever the outcome is.
That's what I think, and I fully agree with the Japanese view on the activities of the new system. Thank You.
We should be proud of it. We should say "it doesn't matter, just BRING IT ON, and we will find a way to make it happen.",
and help Nishi to not do it alone, but Together with full confidence.
Hallelujah brothers, praise St Nishi !
Sorry for the joke, but your comment sounds like a prayer to me. ^^
So i'll pray for St Nishi! LoL
Hallelujah Brothers!
Nishi always wanted to avoid the MSX becoming a gaming machine like the Famicom, yet it had hardware that was great for games (spriting etc). Besides games were always a big part of home computing and MSX were no different. Home computers are basically game consoles with built-in or included keyboards and BASIC, and considering many MSX games uses cartridges (that even looks very similar to Famicom cartridges) the MSX is very console-like in a way and can be treated like one (just insert a game cartridge and joysticks then turn it on).
Nishi said that he personally isn't into games, so I don't see it very surprising that he still wants to keep the multi-purpose aim with the MSX3, despite that games probably still will be a big part of it. I think that at least it's important to let people know that it won't just be an "MSX Mini" emulator box with select built-in games and fake miniature keyboard.
I'm not sure if the upcoming X68000 Z will be something much more than a "Mini" (although it at least has a working keyboard and mouse).
in my view, in other words: "Just follow Japan, and everything will be alright."
I agree with you, and your comments above. Because it is so true. Every time we must read "what about the community? What about the scene?". It is not about the scene nor the community, that is very unsteady. No, it is about the MSX! Also, I can't believe the comments I read here that are so disrespectful to mr. Nishi. Why?
The goal of mr. Nishi is very clear. Yes, he is not a gamer, I would say "halleluja" to that! Because MSX is NOT a gaming console, and it is and was always a computer with the mind on electronics and development. In The Netherlands big '80's magazines like RAM (Radio Amateur Magazine), Elektuur (nowadays called Elektor magazine), MCM (MSX Computer magazine), etc. were filled with much electronic development, always! Because MSX was like the raspberry Pi now is: development, electronics, built your own things! Creating, education, engineering, programming.
It is all about education, learning things. And if anyone have followed mr. Nishi's thoughts, you understand why he choose this line. He is also busy with the creation of a new school, new form of education. And MSX0 and MSX3 is connecting this piece, like I said above: educating, developing, programming, engineering, etc. To try to get 'hands on' for the kids. Because engineering is a beautiful thing to do, and it can potentially lead to innovation.
The new MSX line is this tiny puzzle in this. Read for example what Eugeny (g8net/gr8bit) write about engineering, you understand it better: Engineering profession
So yes, I understand why and what mr. Nishi is trying to do, and that have nothing to do with any 'haleluja'.